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And no - not everyone in Syracuse thinks twin Trees is great pizza. They could cut it into conventional slices and I still wouldn't like it - it's just a style of pizza that I don't care for.
Agreed- not a fan at all. The first and last time I tried it, I was reminded of St. Matthew's cafeteria pizza... from the mid-late 80's. It wasn't good.
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Pickles Deli used to be great but last time I tried a pastrami sandwich from there - about two years ago - it was pitifully scarce on ingredients, average quality of meat and crazy expensive. Have not been back since.
Good to know! I haven't been there since the end of 2005, when we moved from just down the street to Manlius and well... out of sight, out of mind. We actually enticed our friends to help us move by offering beer and ordering lunch from there. lol
As far as Twin Trees pizza compares with "New York" pizza, if you prefer pizza with thin, wimpy crust that collapses as you pick it up, fine. And the prices you New Yorkers charge for pizza (and everything else) are actionable. I prefer pizza 1) rarely and 2) with some ooopmph to it.
Pizza is insanely expensive. We usually just buy the twinpack of Wegman's pizza dough - the long, rectangular kind that barely fits on a large baking sheet - for $3.49 and put on jarred sauce from Aldi's and sprinkle it with bagged/shredded mozzarella. So much cheaper (Less than $10 for both) and their crust is *ridiculously* good. lol
In my experience- I noticed that the price of pizza went WAY up around 2005-2006, when the price of flour nearly doubled. That definitely makes sense. I like to buy flour in 25lb. bags (I bake a LOT) and it used to be that I could buy a large bag for under $8. Anywhere. Now it's hard to find them at all and when I do, they're rarely under $15. Aldi's, fortunately, sells unbleached flour for $1.49/5lbs. Still- it's a far cry from what it was and I can imagine that the need for as much flour as a pizzeria or bakery would use increases their costs quite a bit. Muffins, donuts, PASTA... all much higher than then. I used to be able to count on being able to buy pasta for $1/3lbs. (Wegman's old regular price of 3 one-pound boxes for 99c) Now it's rarely much under 99c for 1lb.
Pavone's makes a very good pizza, but there have not been enough mentions of Avicolli's in Liverpool. I prefer their pizza over pavone's, though only slightly. Yes, Twin trees is terrible. People from NYC tend to romanticize about how good the pizza from NYC is. Truth is that Pavones and Avicolli's makes pizza better than the average NYC pizza place, although not as good as the best in NYC. Actually Syracuse is a pretty good city (for its small size) for pizza if you know where to go and what you like. Complainers havent lived in many other cities... it gets much worse.
Gianni's BRONX pizza is fantastic as is Pavone's. Syracuse has a few other good places...but those are really the truest recreation. Avicollis does a decent job as well....
Gianni's BRONX pizza is fantastic as is Pavone's. Syracuse has a few other good places...but those are really the truest recreation. Avicollis does a decent job as well....
I agree with Gianni's on Burnet Ave being the best. By far, in my opinion.
Next best would have to be Johnny's Pizza on E. Colvin and Cam's in Camillus
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