07-01-2014, 08:31 AM
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My wife and I moved down here from Chicago I'm retired and she was recruted by a headhunter for the dental insurance industry. She has allot of years in her field, a large dental practice in st.pete hired her as there dental insurance coordinator. We would no of moved here if the pay was lower than what she was making up their witch was $50,000 a year. But she is very good at her job. She makes allot of money for her employer. Between the 2 of us we are close to $75,000 a year. But like other people say rent is high her for what you get. Also insurance for her medical and car and renters is high. So I dont see how other can make it here if you don't have a good paying job. Also groceries are also more expensive here than the North Imo. Also we are in our late 50"s so having no more snow was the only factor why we decided to move to Florida. Crime is just as bad if here as it is in Detroit or Chicago. The reason you see Detroit and Chicago in the news is because they are larger cites compared to Tampa area.
Seems like a fair assessment here. I don't see anyone in Tampa surviving on 40k a year and the median household income for Tampa Bay is $44,402 which is almost 22% LOWER than the national average and 2.5% lower than the state average. So there is a lot of areas where families are making lower than the avg and the prices on things like insurance, housing, food, utlilties (TECO just increased rates 3% this year) keep going up every year while wages remain stagnant.
Im sure there are successful people on CD and thats great but the reality is the AVERAGE household in Tampa is struggling.
"The Census ACS 1-year survey reports that the median household income for the Tampa-St Petersburg-Clearwater Florida metro area was $44,402 in 2012, the latest figures available. Tampa median household income is $638 lower than the median Florida household income and $6,969 less than the US median household income. 2013 metro income data (including Tampa median household income) will be released in September of 2014."
07-01-2014, 09:25 AM
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So you guys are saying if you are making 40k a year and your apartment is between $800-1000 you won't be able to make it down there? I know up here in the Philly area I make about $29,000 have off in the winters and have a very small one bedroom apartment that cost $950 a month and I still have money for food, to go out on weekends and to travel a little bit. I'm in the same situation as the first poster and I'm looking to move down to have full employment. It would be my girl friend and I. We would like to atlesdt start out with $25,000 each and be able to work up in our feild of work. I do pool work and she is a teacher. I look on craigslist every day and always see openings for jobs that's why I'm wondering how hard it really is to get work? I've called a bunch of places and yes it seems very hard to line up a job before you move where most employers want you to come in within the next few days for a interview and start the following week. If anyone on here wants to hire me to clean their pool let me know!!!!! But this is a great read and gives me more insight on what to look for. I understand it's going be rough but it's a risk and it's the only thing I got if I wanna do pools all year because it's season up here
07-01-2014, 09:34 AM
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So you guys are saying if you are making 40k a year and your apartment is between $800-1000 you won't be able to make it down there? I know up here in the Philly area I make about $29,000 have off in the winters and have a very small one bedroom apartment that cost $950 a month and I still have money for food, to go out on weekends and to travel a little bit. I'm in the same situation as the first poster and I'm looking to move down to have full employment. It would be my girl friend and I. We would like to atlesdt start out with $25,000 each and be able to work up in our feild of work. I do pool work and she is a teacher. I look on craigslist every day and always see openings for jobs that's why I'm wondering how hard it really is to get work? I've called a bunch of places and yes it seems very hard to line up a job before you move where most employers want you to come in within the next few days for a interview and start the following week. If anyone on here wants to hire me to clean their pool let me know!!!!! But this is a great read and gives me more insight on what to look for. I understand it's going be rough but it's a risk and it's the only thing I got if I wanna do pools all year because it's season up here
Do you have a car? Depending on that the insurance is over $120/month for full cov and then factor in car payment and gas. Plus on that wage you will be RENTING all your life and never be able to acutally buy a house. This isnt "PHILLY" btw so things are drastically different. You also mentioned you have a GF, how much does she make, If you have a g/f helping you out then thats totally different.
Craigslist? cleaning pools? but you say you are looking for "full time" employment. If it were as easy as you think its, im sure you would already be down here with a full time job and "money to spare"...
I will say this though. We do have a "slow" season down here in the winter for pool service as well so while your work may not stop completely dont expect it to be the same as if it were the summer.
In regards to the 40k a year, I am talking about mainly familys with kids. Which is most of the population here. If you had to take care of you, a kid and a girlfriend on 40k alone, it would be a struggle. Any single guy can survive off 20-30k, lol its not that hard to do.
07-01-2014, 09:39 AM
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My wife and I moved down here from Chicago I'm retired and she was recruted by a headhunter
Could you tell me which "headhunter" office recruited her? I'm in a different field, but am in the same boat. We're in Chicago and want to make the move as well. Any info on the headhunters in the area is appreciated. Thanks.
07-01-2014, 11:28 AM
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Do you have a car? Depending on that the insurance is over $120/month for full cov and then factor in car payment and gas. Plus on that wage you will be RENTING all your life and never be able to acutally buy a house. This isnt "PHILLY" btw so things are drastically different. You also mentioned you have a GF, how much does she make, If you have a g/f helping you out then thats totally different.
Yes I have a car but also have a company truck. Which it looks like most employers will supply one for you down there. If that is right I may just sell my car and we will just have one car which both mine and her'a are paid off. The reason we haven't made the move yet is because we both have made a agreement with our companies well stay for the summer. She is a teacher also a nanny for special need children. How are the teaching jobs down there? I'm not saying it will be a easy move at all and could be very risky but with how many schools are closing up here and how bad the schools are in the Philly area it just seems like a good time for a fresh start, I've been doing the pool work for 6 years and work march-October but would like to work all year with atlesdt 40 hours a week. If we both were able to get jobs and made $35k a year how would we be able to live? I'm just very curious and want to get the most info as possible,
She would also be willing to take a waitress job at first to have some kind of income. Is that also very hard to get jobs?
07-01-2014, 12:17 PM
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The problem we have here in FL is that there are much more people than there are jobs
On that note: A lot of people come here with/without a job, some find jobs, some don't, and some open their own businesses to "
try " to cater to those who moved here with or without employment, and who have ZERO buying power towards the "services" offered! So moms and pops struggle to cater to an audience that's not rich & shops mainly at Walmart & are always looking for "deals".
We here on CD are not always taken seriously when we tell people life is expensive in FL unless you make 6 figures and don't spend recklessly, and a lot of folks move here anyway "
because they're done with snow ", and don't realize it until it's too late, and they become those who
cannot support the service industry they were looking to work in. I remember a time in Florida when the gas was $1 and some change...not the case anymore.
07-01-2014, 12:48 PM
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Question for northerners....do you really think the ads you see on TV will be day to day life here?
07-01-2014, 01:07 PM
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Question for northerners....do you really think the ads you see on TV will be day to day life here?
You beat me to it...
People need to read about "advertising" more...
07-01-2014, 01:43 PM
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Question for northerners....do you really think the ads you see on TV will be day to day life here?
Nope but that would be nice. It's a risk I guess, if it doesn't work out I can always move back to the north. Unemployment rates are high here to but people make it work. What's life without taking a risk and going for your dreams. Thanks for all the help I'll see you guys in September.!
07-01-2014, 02:58 PM
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Dont get me wrong: It certainly does not require 6 figures to do OK here. Zero buying power? Pass by any shopping mall in the state of FL and I am sure you will find the parking lot busy. Here in SH stores are opening all the time. We are waiting for the next mall to be built which will house Bonefish Grill, Hobby Lobby, Mattress Firm and Vitamin Shoppe as the first 4 announced businesses going into Cortez Commons. Retail is booming here. Even though we are in our "off season" the restaurants are busy.
The median income for Tampa is $44,000. That means half are getting more than 44k and half are getting less. I guess it sucks to be on the getting less side overall, but that is the way it goes. I am sure that a couple with 3 or 4 kids that is on the low side of the median is going to be tight.
But that is the way it goes when you want to raise a family.
It does not matter where you live these days. Time are tough all over. Every state, every city is suffering from the economic downturn of the 21st century. Oregon, Nevada, California, Illinois all have
higher unemployment rates. It is hard to find work in any state.
I remember when gas was 0.38 an a pack of cigarettes was 0.45
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On that note: A lot of people come here with/without a job, some find jobs, some don't, and some open their own businesses to "try " to cater to those who moved here with or without employment, and who have ZERO buying power towards the "services" offered! So moms and pops struggle to cater to an audience that's not rich & shops mainly at Walmart & are always looking for "deals".because they're done with snow ", and don't realize it until it's too late, and they become those who cannot support the service industry they were looking to work in. I remember a time in Florida when the gas was $1 and some change...not the case anymore.
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Most Common Occupations - Health diagnosing and treating practitioners and other technical occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Health technologists and technicians (%)
Most Common Occupations - Service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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