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Old 01-03-2012, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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This is a difficult situation in many ways.

I think the lesson here is that everyone should act in the workplace as if they might be being filmed.

As for teachers that don't have enough control that they throw desks....no sympathy there.

I agree but that would be a whole lot easier if our students acted like they were being video taped.

I have the ability to record my lectures on my smart board. As soon as someone notices I'm recording, they all straighten right up. The computer picks up what is said as well as what is being done on the board. I should just mount an empty camera box in my room.
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:06 PM
 
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I agree but that would be a whole lot easier if our students acted like they were being video taped.

I have the ability to record my lectures on my smart board. As soon as someone notices I'm recording, they all straighten right up. The computer picks up what is said as well as what is being done on the board. I should just mount an empty camera box in my room.

Can you play back sections during a later class session as an anticipatory set? That might set the tone for a better classroom environment.

I started our second semester today by giving all the students progress reports showing what will be on their report cards next week. That got the attention of a lot of them. Unfortunately, they couldn't all keep their attention focused because they didn't go to bed early enough last night. Better tomorrow, I hope.
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Old 01-03-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Can you play back sections during a later class session as an anticipatory set? That might set the tone for a better classroom environment.

I started our second semester today by giving all the students progress reports showing what will be on their report cards next week. That got the attention of a lot of them. Unfortunately, they couldn't all keep their attention focused because they didn't go to bed early enough last night. Better tomorrow, I hope.
I don't, usually, play them back. I put them on my website for all the world to see.... The change in the atmosphere in the room is palpable. If I'm recording, they're paying attention (less talking, less making noise of any kind) and I don't get hands going up to ask if they can go to the bathroom in the middle of a sentence. I fear using this too much would make the novelty wear off. It is nice though to just click a button and the class falls in line. I do it when I don't think they're getting the material so they can review it later.

I don't know if it's the idea that they are being recorded along with me or if hitting that record button just sends the message "THIS IS IMPORTANT" but it's a nice tool to have in my back pocket. I'm still on break this week and playing with the lap pad they gave me. Now I'll be able to lecture from anywhere in the room so I can use proximity during lectures. One of my issues is talking as soon as I turn my back to write something on the board then having to call the class back to order. If I never have to turn around, I won't have that problem.

I think my new years resolution is flopping here....
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:23 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Why do students have hand-held technology out during class?
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Why do students have hand-held technology out during class?
Because teachers can't see through desk tops and students know we can't watch all 30 at one time while teaching. In short, because they can get away with it more often than they're caught. I would love to have the school put in a blocking device that renders them useless.

I've tried having students put cell phones on desks but half of them just claim they don't have it with them. The half that put them on the desk aren't the ones using them under the tables anyway and it's not just cell phones, they have ipods that go online too...
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Old 01-03-2012, 08:39 PM
 
Location: California
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I have another perspective on this. Teachers have always lost their tempers. That's nothing new. I'm sure if I had to deal with as many kids as they do, I'd lose my temper as well. The earliest time I can remember a teacher behaving in a way that just seemed out of control was when I was in second grade...the teacher was screaming and chasing a little boy around the classroom, then dragged him out and they disappeared for a while. I remember how scary that was. It happened a lot more in high school...teachers would scream and throw erasers, or cuss at us. And that was at an expensive private school, in the honors classes, where we certainly behaved better than kids do in my children's classes. I don't remember a teacher ever getting in any kind of trouble for it.

I think the only new thing here is that kids have a little bit more protection. They have the option to pull out a cell phone and start recording the incident. They have the ability to share the recording with the world. I don't think the kids are baiting the teachers any more than they ever have--and yes, some kids are irritating and they push people to see what happens. But there have always been kids like that.
Posting something to make anyone look bad is wrong. If my children ever did this I would be ashamed that I wasn't a good parent. No one should be treated with so much disrespect. For a parent to say it is a defense strategy is sad. If the child has a problem with a teacher you discuss it with your parents or the proper authorities.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Cyberbaiting- a new trend with some teens. try to goad a teacher into losing it and then they post the breakdown on the internet.


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Gosh that sounds just like my job as a Guard in a Maximum Security prison. EXCEPT I had a high powered rifle and a shotgun when on tower duty.

GL2
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:28 AM
 
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Because teachers can't see through desk tops and students know we can't watch all 30 at one time while teaching. In short, because they can get away with it more often than they're caught. I would love to have the school put in a blocking device that renders them useless.

I've tried having students put cell phones on desks but half of them just claim they don't have it with them. The half that put them on the desk aren't the ones using them under the tables anyway and it's not just cell phones, they have ipods that go online too...
If you have a "no using a cell phone/unapproved electronic device at your desk" policy in your classroom, why are so many students disregarding it?

What is the consequence to the student when they disregard your rules?
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:17 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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If you have a "no using a cell phone/unapproved electronic device at your desk" policy in your classroom, why are so many students disregarding it?

What is the consequence to the student when they disregard your rules?
Normally the only possible consequence is to hold the device until the end of class and give a referral. A handful of districts will allow a teacher to hold the device or give the device to the office until a parent comes to pick it up, but that is rare.

Another small but disturbing trend is to embarrass female teachers and administrators by taking revealing pictures of them. A vice principal at my wife's middle school had an incident with boys trying to take pictures down her blouse. The middle school implemented a teacher dress code to help combat that (no skirts, dresses, t-shirts, or sleeveless tops).
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:28 AM
 
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Normally the only possible consequence is to hold the device until the end of class and give a referral. A handful of districts will allow a teacher to hold the device or give the device to the office until a parent comes to pick it up, but that is rare.

Another small but disturbing trend is to embarrass female teachers and administrators by taking revealing pictures of them. A vice principal at my wife's middle school had an incident with boys trying to take pictures down her blouse. The middle school implemented a teacher dress code to help combat that (no skirts, dresses, t-shirts, or sleeveless tops).
So a kid can be taking a test at his desk while sneaking peaks at his cell phone/Ipad/Iphone - no real consequences?

That sure doesn't seem right.
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