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Old 01-09-2012, 12:16 AM
 
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Actually, a video of the classroom is not a bad idea. Since there are so many behavorial issues, that teaching is really more like being a guard at Rikers, and just trying to keep the inmates (students) in line is a full time job, forget about trying to teach the subject matter. Maybe then the kids would realize, if they were out of line, a guard will come down, and escort the offender down to in-house for the rest of the day, until their parents can come get them. And view the incident.

Maybe, then teachers could focus on teaching.
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:46 AM
 
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Actually, a video of the classroom is not a bad idea. Since there are so many behavorial issues, that teaching is really more like being a guard at Rikers, and just trying to keep the inmates (students) in line is a full time job, forget about trying to teach the subject matter. Maybe then the kids would realize, if they were out of line, a guard will come down, and escort the offender down to in-house for the rest of the day, until their parents can come get them. And view the incident.

Maybe, then teachers could focus on teaching.
It is a shame to live in fear that a student will "catch" you having a bad moment and record you presenting you as a ticking time bomb. I am all for recording classes and using them to show parents how their child behaves during class.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:36 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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The talk about video tape in the classroom made me wonder about how FERPA would fit here.
A school can actually draft a FERPA policy that applies to students as well as faculty, with teeth for violations of the policy. Under such a policy, a student recording of the classroom in session would be an educational record.
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Old 01-14-2012, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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This teacher may have been prone to blowing his top and screaming at his class every now and then. After a while, the trouble makers learned how to push his buttons on purpose...Nice.

Just another reason to have a no cellphone rule in the classroom. I'm sure that students wouldn't want to have their awkward oral presentations broadcast over Youtube, either.

You'd be instantly sued for broadcasting student presentations without the myriad echelons of red tape needed to do anything even close to that.

Conversely, students can open facebook accounts in your name and post anything they want. This type of behavior has already occured and been upheld as a "right of free speach" issue. Sometimes, I just shake my head and wonder why I want to, and enjoy, teaching...
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Old 01-15-2012, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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Actually, a video of the classroom is not a bad idea. Since there are so many behavorial issues, that teaching is really more like being a guard at Rikers, and just trying to keep the inmates (students) in line is a full time job, forget about trying to teach the subject matter. Maybe then the kids would realize, if they were out of line, a guard will come down, and escort the offender down to in-house for the rest of the day, until their parents can come get them. And view the incident.

Maybe, then teachers could focus on teaching.
I have worked at, and have parents who work at, schools that have cameras installed in all classrooms.
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:38 PM
 
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You'd be instantly sued for broadcasting student presentations without the myriad echelons of red tape needed to do anything even close to that.

Conversely, students can open facebook accounts in your name and post anything they want. This type of behavior has already occured and been upheld as a "right of free speach" issue. Sometimes, I just shake my head and wonder why I want to, and enjoy, teaching...
Of course teachers have no business posting videos of their students on the internet.

And I'm not comfortable with teachers/students/whoever making videotapes of others without their knowledge. I'm not entirely sure that it's even legal to do that.

The phony facebook accounts sound like very sketchy ground to me, too.

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Old 01-16-2012, 12:17 PM
 
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This reminds me of an article I saw awhile back.

How I Joined Teach for America—and Got Sued for $20 Million by Joshua Kaplowitz, City Journal Winter 2003
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Well that made me cry....and another example of the INSANITY in this country!!!
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Old 01-17-2012, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Brazil
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Unhappy Teachers need the law on their side too...not only student have rights.

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Cyberbaiting- a new trend with some teens. try to goad a teacher into losing it and then they post the breakdown on the internet.


Cyberbaiting: a New Teen Trend That Humiliates Teachers | TakePart - News, Culture, Videos and Photos That Make the World Better
It is a shame that teachers don't have the law on their side, but student have all this law that defend them, to things that they provokes.

I mean when a student is punished it like oh you are being to harsh, but what about a student who is disrespectful. What is that called?
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Old 01-17-2012, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Brazil
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Unhappy Kids now a days are getting out of control.

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That's just - sickening.

I've had some really good teachers, and some really bad ones. The good ones were ones who had set rules, made no exceptions, and held everyone to the same standard - you knew what to expect. The bad ones were disorganized, pandered to this or that student, and changed their requirements almost daily. Yet I would never even have thought of humiliating them in such a manner - one merely took their classes and survived. When students did things to teachers, they were instantly expelled - like the one who soaked an art teacher's brand new fake-fur coat in india ink and left it on her chair, dripping. Of course now the kids are praised for their innovation, counseled for the abuse that they incite, and the teachers are fired. This makes sense how?
That what is sickening is how these kids are praised and they have the law on their side.
Students kids now a days are being spoiled by the society.
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