Most Women Denied Abortions by Texas Law Got Them Another Way (Hardin: gynecologists, insurance)

[BobTex]

Originally Posted by SyZ

People still murder even though it's illegal. Should we therefore make murder legal?

Some people need killin and in Texas it should be a legal defense.

[SyZ]

Originally Posted by BobTex

Some people need killin and in Texas it should be a legal defense.

All killing isn't murder, though all murder is killing.

I do appreciate the 'castle' appeal, tho.

[Frustratedintelligence]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

This I can respect.

Those who babble about the sanctity of life while cheering war and the death penalty are blatant hypocrites. I can respect consistency even if I dont agree with the position.

Abortion and the death penalty, sure, but I don't know how anyone can disagree with war being a necessary evil.

Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady

Sorry, but if the pro-control over other people's most intimate decisions (let's call it what it really is, shall we?) were really pro-life, they would not be seeking to ban abortion (because that guarantees a rise in maternal mortality, but to them, living women aren't life to be cherished) but would be promoting just as loudly the things that have been PROVEN to reduce abortion. For example, as has been shown to work, early and comprehensive sex education (and abstinence only need not apply as that has been shown NOT to work, both in studies and in actual life before Rowe v. Wade) and access from puberty to free or low cost effective birth control.

However, if you REALLY want to prevent abortion, you should be championing a law that requires the sex that can cause the MOST pregnancies and thus MOST abortion to, upon reaching puberty, to get a mandatory vasectomy, to be reversed only when the male has matured and proven that he is not only able and willing to support any results of his sexual activity but has also found a female that is willing to put in writing for the court that she agrees to procreate and raise children with them.

Think that's too intrusive on the male bodily autonomy? Welcome to the world of women.



Don't even pretend that it's not about control over women. We know better, and have known better for literally generations. Even when it's a woman seeking to control other women for reasons that truly do not bear looking at.

The fact is abstinence does work. I've been abstinent for weeks and whaddayaknow I haven't made any babies since then.

Forgive my male opinion but a lot of what you're saying sounds like women aren't capable of making good decisions. In matters of consensual sex, both people know how it works and what the possible outcomes can be.

I don't think we want to start talking about socially sanctioned procedures that are intrusive to the male anatomy...

[ScoPro]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

So you dont care about the sanctity of life?

Not for murdering scumbags who rape, maim, or torture their innocent victims before killing them. Especially child killers. Then there are the terrorists.
Those types are all a waste of oxygen.

But I do think the Texas abortion law goes too far, especially the lawsuit/snitch provision.

[TexasHorseLady]

Originally Posted by Frustratedintelligence

Abortion and the death penalty, sure, but I don't know how anyone can disagree with war being a necessary evil.


The fact is abstinence does work. I've been abstinent for weeks and whaddayaknow I haven't made any babies since then.

Forgive my male opinion but a lot of what you're saying sounds like women aren't capable of making good decisions. In matters of consensual sex, both people know how it works and what the possible outcomes can be.

I don't think we want to start talking about socially sanctioned procedures that are intrusive to the male anatomy...

"Abstinence only" as in sex education - but you knew that, didn't you?


And you don't want to talk about socially sanctioned procedures that are intrusive to the male anatomy, but you're perfectly fine with such for the female anatomy? Really?

[KathrynAragon]

Sex is not an automatic right. I think that may be where people start to mess up.

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

Sex is not an automatic right. I think that may be where people start to mess up.

Are you saying that people have to get a permit from the government?

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by SyZ

All killing isn't murder, though all murder is killing.

Go ahead and give a clear explanation of the difference between them
I know the answer, I just want to see your explanation

[SyZ]

Originally Posted by Dopo

Go ahead and give a clear explanation of the difference between them
I know the answer, I just want to see your explanation

Unjustified and unlawful killing is murder - e.g. the taking of an innocent pre-born life and then labeling it 'abortion' or 'reproductive healthcare'

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by Dopo

Are you saying that people have to get a permit from the government?

Nope.