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My point isn't to make it acceptable for kids to misbehave in public. I don't condone it, and work hard with my family to prevent it from happening.
The point is that if you do happen to have a child that acts up at 30,000 feet, there is little a parent can do about it. You can't leave the airplane. You have in a confined space and are expected to remain seated. You can walk around a bit, you can visit the lavatory. You can try to soothe, but there is little you can do.
My brother once had his kids ear refuse to pop and the pressure building in head caused him to wail loudly the last 30 minutes of the flight. They are good parents, consciountess and all. THey don't tolerate misbehavior. But there was nothing they could do except wait. It embarrassed the heck of out him.
i kid u not, i was kicked with patent leather shoes for 2 hours on a SF to SD flight. the mother thought it was cute.
You tolerated that? It would have happened ONCE for me. On the second kick, the mom would have been told to have her kid stop. If it happened again? The kid would hear it from me, good and LOUD.
I'd love to know exactly how many times you flew with your child when young, and the length of the flights?
We were once on a 16 hour flight with our 14 month-old. He was very well behavior but developed explosive diarrhea mid-way. It was just plain awful, and there was absolutely nothing we could do about it. I have been on a 12+ hour flight where there was a very little baby (not mine) who cried the whole time due to ear issues. Everything the parents tried didn't work.
*it happens!
Now why do you ask?
I can count on one hand how many times my child flew as a young toddler. And I would never, ever take my daughter on a plane if she had an ear infection--she would be downright miserable, so would I, as I would be getting dirty looks from fellow travelers.
I never understood why my fellow parents would do things for the convenience of themselves rather than focus on the needs of the kids, and then wonder why their toddlers have nuclear meltdowns "out of nowhere for no reason" . I would never go grocery shopping perilously close to naptime, I never brought my kids to upscale restaurants in the P.M., and I would always go out of my way to prevent a meltdown--you know, which isn't as hard as it may seem in your post. A toddler that is well fed, well rested, is not sick, and emotionally calm behaves well. however when you intentionally bring your poor toddler with an ear infection onto a plane, you get what you pay for.
Now why do you ask?
I can count on one hand how many times my child flew as a young toddler. And I would never, ever take my daughter on a plane if she had an ear infection--she would be downright miserable, so would I, as I would be getting dirty looks from fellow travelers.
I never understood why my fellow parents would do things for the convenience of themselves rather than focus on the needs of the kids, and then wonder why their toddlers have nuclear meltdowns "out of nowhere for no reason" . I would never go grocery shopping perilously close to naptime, I never brought my kids to upscale restaurants in the P.M., and I would always go out of my way to prevent a meltdown--you know, which isn't as hard as it may seem in your post. A toddler that is well fed, well rested, is not sick, and emotionally calm behaves well. however when you intentionally bring your poor toddler with an ear infection onto a plane, you get what you pay for.
I see. So you would forego $5,000 of non-refundable air tickets bought months before if a child had the sniffles? Would not fly to see a sick loved one, or heaven forbid a funeral?
I see. So you would forego $5,000 of non-refundable air tickets bought months before if a child had the sniffles? Would not fly to see a sick loved one, or heaven forbid a funeral?
And I'm guessing she never had her child get sick while on vacation either. It happens.
When the five of us flew, I didn't book the seats across, I booked back to back rows. That way, if the little ones got antsy, they were going to be poking another family member in the back. At least, until we realized what they were doing and put a stop to it.
You tolerated that? It would have happened ONCE for me. On the second kick, the mom would have been told to have her kid stop. If it happened again? The kid would hear it from me, good and LOUD.
You're meltdown doesn't mean it will stop. My goodness, bad manners aren't an excuse for bad manners.
Now why do you ask?
I can count on one hand how many times my child flew as a young toddler. And I would never, ever take my daughter on a plane if she had an ear infection--she would be downright miserable, so would I, as I would be getting dirty looks from fellow travelers.
I never understood why my fellow parents would do things for the convenience of themselves rather than focus on the needs of the kids, and then wonder why their toddlers have nuclear meltdowns "out of nowhere for no reason" . I would never go grocery shopping perilously close to naptime, I never brought my kids to upscale restaurants in the P.M., and I would always go out of my way to prevent a meltdown--you know, which isn't as hard as it may seem in your post. A toddler that is well fed, well rested, is not sick, and emotionally calm behaves well. however when you intentionally bring your poor toddler with an ear infection onto a plane, you get what you pay for.
i dont think she is saying she is perfect parent , she is saying she tries her best to avoid the incidents that might cause unruly behavior why are you reading things that are not there Hopes . You make a habit of doing this in other forums too .
I've flown twice with my toddler. The first time she was a perfect angel, didn't cry once (just fussed a little at landed but was soothed to sleep with a song) but the second time she was a holy terror despite all my best efforts, just some things are out of our control. She was terrified of the person sat next to her, I couldn't change that, and her ears didn't pop on the way down so she cried for the last half hour despite all my efforts to calm her down and comfort her. Thankfully the people sat near us were understanding instead of judgemental and made it much less stressful for all of us.
I have no problem with a genuine distressed child. What is the kid supposed to do? What is the parent supposed to do? Just like everyone else on the airplane, they need to get somewhere and are stuffed in a little metal tube. I have never experienced a miserable child on a flight. On a couple of occasions, I encouraged a child to come watch what we were watching on the computer (prerecorded movie) or colored. Cheerful reassurance goes a long way!
I was at a movie theater once. The family had a preschool aged kid who was not interested and was just too young to sit still that long. He sat in his seat intentionally kicking my seat for entertainment. So I moved. A minute later, Dad decides to keep him in his lap. Again directly behind me. By this time, the kid has taken up a shrieky monolog. He starts doing gymnastics in Dad's lap, repeatedly whacking my chair, my head, you name it. The movie was pretty packed. There were not a lot of options regarding relocating. By the end the kids and I all tried to move around to avoid the kid.
Yah I am sorry you might miss a new popular movie. Or that you might have to send one parent with your older child and another parent has to stay home. But my family threw down for the movie too. And we would have like to watch it! It did not occur to me until after to ask an usher to escort them out. But who wants to be That Guy?
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Now why do you ask?
