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I can count on one hand how many times my child flew as a young toddler. And I would never, ever take my daughter on a plane if she had an ear infection--she would be downright miserable, so would I, as I would be getting dirty looks from fellow travelers.
I never understood why my fellow parents would do things for the convenience of themselves rather than focus on the needs of the kids, and then wonder why their toddlers have nuclear meltdowns "out of nowhere for no reason" . I would never go grocery shopping perilously close to naptime, I never brought my kids to upscale restaurants in the P.M., and I would always go out of my way to prevent a meltdown--you know, which isn't as hard as it may seem in your post. A toddler that is well fed, well rested, is not sick, and emotionally calm behaves well. however when you intentionally bring your poor toddler with an ear infection onto a plane, you get what you pay for.
Come on now, we aren't talking about grocery shopping. A four person trip to Australia from the US will cost you anywhere between a non refundable 5 and 10 grand. There are times when choosing not to fly is not an option, except in the most extreme case.
I think most people would do their best to reschedule with an ear infection. That's not the only circumstance, however. And being well fed and well rested is guarantee of nothing.
You're meltdown doesn't mean it will stop. My goodness, bad manners aren't an excuse for bad manners.
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First of all, I wouldn't be having a "meltdown". I would be letting the parent know to have their child STOP the annoying behavior. If it continued, I would let the little snowflake know, in no uncertain terms, that his/her behavior is absolutely unacceptable and won't be tolerated. Trust me, it WILL stop.
Do you really think it's OK for some brat to be kicking the back of someone else's seat???? Or to scream and have a fit in a restaurant???? or a store? or anywhere else where other people have to be subjected to it??? Guess what? It's NOT "ok" just because your kid is tired, hungry, bored, or just feels like being a brat. No one should have to tolerate your child's nonsense. Infants are different ---- they have no other means of communicating. But toddlers and older children? No, not happening.
You must be one of the parents who lets their kid run around a restaurant annoying all the other patrons while you sit there thinking how wonderful he/she is.
I have no problem with a genuine distressed child. What is the kid supposed to do? What is the parent supposed to do? Just like everyone else on the airplane, they need to get somewhere and are stuffed in a little metal tube. I have never experienced a miserable child on a flight. On a couple of occasions, I encouraged a child to come watch what we were watching on the computer (prerecorded movie) or colored. Cheerful reassurance goes a long way!
I was at a movie theater once. The family had a preschool aged kid who was not interested and was just too young to sit still that long. He sat in his seat intentionally kicking my seat for entertainment. So I moved. A minute later, Dad decides to keep him in his lap. Again directly behind me. By this time, the kid has taken up a shrieky monolog. He starts doing gymnastics in Dad's lap, repeatedly whacking my chair, my head, you name it. The movie was pretty packed. There were not a lot of options regarding relocating. By the end the kids and I all tried to move around to avoid the kid.
Yah I am sorry you might miss a new popular movie. Or that you might have to send one parent with your older child and another parent has to stay home. But my family threw down for the movie too. And we would have like to watch it! It did not occur to me until after to ask an usher to escort them out. But who wants to be That Guy?
Why didn't you say something to the father???? The father knew and saw what the brat was doing and did nothing about it. You could have said something to the dad. If it continued, you could have gone to management.
Why is everyone so worred about being "that guy"??????? No wonder people think it's perfectly acceptable for their children to impose their rotten behavior all over everyone and the brats think it's OK, too. Screw that, if I pay for a meal, movie, flight, etc and some little mutant is destroying my peace by being a brat, you can best believe I'll proudly be "that woman".
First of all, I wouldn't be having a "meltdown". I would be letting the parent know to have their child STOP the annoying behavior. If it continued, I would let the little snowflake know, in no uncertain terms, that his/her behavior is absolutely unacceptable and won't be tolerated. Trust me, it WILL stop.
Do you really think it's OK for some brat to be kicking the back of someone else's seat???? Or to scream and have a fit in a restaurant???? or a store? or anywhere else where other people have to be subjected to it??? Guess what? It's NOT "ok" just because your kid is tired, hungry, bored, or just feels like being a brat. No one should have to tolerate your child's nonsense. Infants are different ---- they have no other means of communicating. But toddlers and older children? No, not happening.
You must be one of the parents who lets their kid run around a restaurant annoying all the other patrons while you sit there thinking how wonderful he/she is.
We aren't talking about restaurants. We're talking about an aircraft in which there's nowhere to go. There are plenty of discussions about other venues. Planes are different. You are a tad restricted in your options.
I'm lucky. When my kid was born, a remote control popped out as well with a "pause", "stop" and "volume control" buttons on it. Much to my surprise, when my kid misbehaves, I just press stop and she does. When she is loud, I simply turn the volume down. There are also buttons labeled cute, funny, and polite. When I press these buttons, she automatically becomes cute, funny, or polite depending on what I'd like at that moment.
I pity those parents whose kids didn't come with remote controls.
Folks, you can deal with kids for a few hours. I sat next to a crying baby one flight. I slept most the flight. Sure I was woken up a couple times but it was no big deal.
Everybody else had to deal with you when you were little, now it is your turn for you to deal with the next generation.
To YOU it's not a big deal, to some of us, it is. It's not the kid we're angry with, it's the parents who think that we should have to put up with their out of control children because they are simply "too exhausted" to do anything about it. You had the kids, you deal with them. I paid good money to go on the flight and I did not request the, "annoy the ever loving crap out of me for four hours with no chance of escape due to an unattended child" as part of the package deal.
Now why do you ask?
I can count on one hand how many times my child flew as a young toddler. And I would never, ever take my daughter on a plane if she had an ear infection--she would be downright miserable, so would I, as I would be getting dirty looks from fellow travelers.
I never understood why my fellow parents would do things for the convenience of themselves rather than focus on the needs of the kids, and then wonder why their toddlers have nuclear meltdowns "out of nowhere for no reason" . I would never go grocery shopping perilously close to naptime, I never brought my kids to upscale restaurants in the P.M., and I would always go out of my way to prevent a meltdown--you know, which isn't as hard as it may seem in your post. A toddler that is well fed, well rested, is not sick, and emotionally calm behaves well. however when you intentionally bring your poor toddler with an ear infection onto a plane, you get what you pay for.
Same here. Why have a child tortured and made miserable just because the parent is too selfish to consider that child or all the other passengers.
It's like restaurants and shopping, you shouldn't take an out-of-control child to dinner just so they can scream or run around while you sit and blissfully enjoy your meal but no one else can.
I took road trips because even with the inconvenience, my kids could get out and stretch their legs, run around and play and not bother anyone.
First of all, I wouldn't be having a "meltdown". I would be letting the parent know to have their child STOP the annoying behavior. If it continued, I would let the little snowflake know, in no uncertain terms, that his/her behavior is absolutely unacceptable and won't be tolerated. Trust me, it WILL stop.
Do you really think it's OK for some brat to be kicking the back of someone else's seat???? Or to scream and have a fit in a restaurant???? or a store? or anywhere else where other people have to be subjected to it??? Guess what? It's NOT "ok" just because your kid is tired, hungry, bored, or just feels like being a brat. No one should have to tolerate your child's nonsense. Infants are different ---- they have no other means of communicating. But toddlers and older children? No, not happening.
You must be one of the parents who lets their kid run around a restaurant annoying all the other patrons while you sit there thinking how wonderful he/she is.
Nope. My children knew how to stay seated. At home, we taught them to remain at table until everyone was finished eating. That translated to there not being an issue at restaurants since they were used to staying at the table until we were done eating.
I'm responding as a passenger, not a parent. My children didn't fly much, and they behaved the few times they did.
When I fly, I have sympathy for parents who are having a difficult time. Same with other off-topic venues people are trying to discuss here. I'm capable of understanding that people are having a difficult time without having the same experience myself.
I'm sure other passengers are disturbed by your reprimanding children LOUDLY. That child is bothering only you with the seat kicking. You're LOUDNESS is bothering everyone.
We aren't talking about restaurants. We're talking about an aircraft in which there's nowhere to go. There are plenty of discussions about other venues. Planes are different. You are a tad restricted in your options.
So.... just because you're in a plane, that means you have to tolerate someone's brat kicking the back of your seat??? Or being a brat in general (screaming, making noise, being obnoxious, etc) and the parents are doing nothing about it?
To YOU it's not a big deal, to some of us, it is. It's not the kid we're angry with, it's the parents who think that we should have to put up with their out of control children because they are simply "too exhausted" to do anything about it. You had the kids, you deal with them. I paid good money to go on the flight and I did not request the, "annoy the ever loving crap out of me for four hours with no chance of escape due to an unattended child" as part of the package deal.
Nope. My children knew how to stay seated. At home, we taught them to remain at table until everyone was finished eating. That translated to there not being an issue at restaurants since they were used to staying at the table until we were done eating.
I'm responding as a passenger, not a parent. My children didn't fly much, and they behaved the few times they did.
When I fly, I have sympathy for parents who are having a difficult time. Same with other off-topic venues people are trying to discuss here. I'm capable of understanding that people are having a difficult time without having the same experience myself.
I'm sure other passengers are disturbed by your reprimanding children LOUDLY. That child is bothering only you with the seat kicking. You're LOUDNESS is bothering everyone.
I can guarantee you, if the brat is sitting there kicking the back of someone's seat, he/she has already done things to annoy other passengers --- loud, obnoxious behavior or whatever. Once someone says something about it, you can best believe others are going to chime in. AND if the kid wasn't being obnoxious and "only" kicking the seat, you can also believe other passenger are going to be on the side of the person correcting the behavior (loudly or not) since no one likes an annoying child.
Trust me, your snowflake may be super-duper-specially-wonderful to YOU but he/she is NOT all that special to others, especially when they're a pain in the asss.
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Now why do you ask?
Screw that, if I pay for a meal, movie, flight, etc and some little mutant is destroying my peace by being a brat, you can best believe I'll proudly be "that woman".
