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Agree that reporting the homicides nationally is rather political. Although I will argue that it is still sad. The media loves to pound this stuff, and luckily for them most Americans are either (a) dumb with statistics or (b) don't bother to look up the historical data. Not saying things haven't gotten worse - point is that people think that right now is like the worst they've ever been when stuff in the 70s, 80s, and 90s for crime was actually a lot worse on average in most places (especially the late 80s/early 90s).
About suicides - I am curious: what is the trend? Increasing? Decreasing? Steady?
Agree that reporting the homicides nationally is rather political. Although I will argue that it is still sad. The media loves to pound this stuff, and luckily for them most Americans are either (a) dumb with statistics or (b) don't bother to look up the historical data. Not saying things haven't gotten worse - point is that people think that right now is like the worst they've ever been when stuff in the 70s, 80s, and 90s for crime was actually a lot worse on average in most places (especially the late 80s/early 90s).
About suicides - I am curious: what is the trend? Increasing? Decreasing? Steady?
The murder rate may not be nearly at the level of the crack days of the late 80's/early 90's, yet, but the it has been trending upwards the last few years from the low around 2013. It is catching up to the mid-2000's levels.
Btw, Atlanta is at 87 as of 10/15, which is 10 more than the same time last year.
The murder rate may not be nearly at the level of the crack days of the late 80's/early 90's, yet, but the it has been trending upwards the last few years from the low around 2013. It is catching up to the mid-2000's levels.
Btw, Atlanta is at 87 as of 10/15, which is 10 more than the same time last year.
Agree. It is getting back to levels from a decade ago. I think that the internet and open data has been both a blessing and a curse. On one hand, it makes people more aware of things - but on the other it makes them so aware that they believe the uptick is MASSIVE (when it might be considered moderate by most statistical measures in most cities).
Where did you get the data for Atlanta btw? I was looking last night for it and only found the monthly reports through the end of September
I had a friend visit from Sweden who literally thought everyone in Chicago was running around with guns like some 1800's Western.
The media does a great job at misrepresenting cities.
The vast vast vast VAST majority of high crime areas are isolated to certain neighborhoods. I really wish people would shut the **** up over it.
You obviously try to curb crime overall and just because it's overrated doesn't mean it's not unacceptable either, but the vast majority of people are much more likely to be mugged than be shot and killed.
I had a friend visit from Sweden who literally thought everyone in Chicago was running around with guns like some 1800's Western.
The media does a great job at misrepresenting cities.
The vast vast vast VAST majority of high crime areas are isolated to certain neighborhoods. I really wish people would shut the **** up over it.
You obviously try to curb crime overall and just because it's overrated doesn't mean it's not unacceptable either, but the vast majority of people are much more likely to be mugged than be shot and killed.
People think the entire city of Atlanta is one giant ghetto, but it's really just the south and west sides. Even Detroit probably has some nice areas. Still, being robbed or mugged isn't something I'd want to experience, especially with a gun pointed at my face. It will have me shaken up and not want to leave the house for awhile.
LOL - who is in office has had no impact on the amount of homicides in Chicago. Stop buying into everything the media/Trump tells you. It's simply not true and anybody can fact check this if they are able to actually be optimistic and look at the statistics and have half a brain.
* George W Bush's Term (January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2009): 4254 homicides
* Obama's term (January 20, 2009 to Present (in this case, October 13, 2016)): 3735 homicides
The difference above between GWB's and Obama's terms is 519 more homicides during Bush's presidency. Now, from this date there's still 99 days left in Obama's presidency. It took Chicago 261 days this year to reach 519 homicides. Do you think that the city is magically going to get as many homicides in the next 99 days as when it took 261 days (and remember, the amount of homicides YTD in Chicago is up 40% from last year). If you think so, then you aren't being objective one bit.
Let's put this into perspective - 1992 had the most homicides recorded of any year in the history of Chicago with 942. The rate of homicides per day then was 2.58. For the city to get 519 homicides in 99 days would mean it would have to more than double its rate of homicides per day from the worst year ever (24 years ago) to 5.24. This year the rate is 1.99 and remember, that's a 40% increase over last year. AKA it's not going to happen - I know some people want to blame Obama for every little thing, but no. There will be more homicides during Bush's presidency than Obama's.
No, 1992 was highest Rate. 1974 was highest overall at 970.
No, 1992 was highest Rate. 1974 was highest overall at 970.
You're right - totally forgot about 1974. The totals for 1992 and 1974 were not that far apart.
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