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Old 11-03-2016, 07:52 PM
 
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[quote=Sharif662;46044000]You have a penchant for beinghalf wrong huh? Houston is about 400K behind Chicago and if it continues on It's pace then it will be the same size then.

You knew I was talking about the four cities that are together 700k smaller than Chicago while having 200 more killings than Chicago. Stop it!!!

 
Old 11-03-2016, 08:52 PM
 
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St. Louis 160/50.68
Baltimore 263/42.31
New Orleans 143/36.70
Memphis 193/29.43
Chicago 629/23.12
Milwaukee 131/21.83
Salinas 33/20.97
Richmond(CA) 20/18.23
Louisville 95/15.44
Oakland 62/14.79
Jacksonville 98/11.29
San Antonio 129/8.78
Lexington 20/6.36
Los Angeles 250/6.29
San Francisco 46/5.32
San Jose 42/4.09
Austin 28/3.00
Portland 17/2.69
 
Old 11-03-2016, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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^ Chicago is at 603 as of 10/26 (around 22 per 100K rate). The official data site for Chicago is https://data.cityofchicago.org/Publi...sent/ijzp-q8t2 . Anything else is unofficial FYI.


* Detroit is at 255 homicides as of 11/1 (https://data.detroitmi.gov/Public-Sa...nal-/b4hw-v6w2). That is a rate of 37.7 per 100K

* Cleveland is unofficially at 106 homicides as of about a week ago (www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/10/man_shot_dead_on_cleveland_sid.html). The rate would be 27.3 per 100k.

* Milwaukee is officially at 104 homicides through 10/25 (http://itmdapps.milwaukee.gov/public...rict/index.jsp). 17.3 per 100K.

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Old 11-04-2016, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, NYC
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285 for NYC as of 10/30 for a rate of around 3.39/100k. I am very happy to be rent stabilized right now.
 
Old 11-04-2016, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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So I did the leg work for Chicago to figure out just how spread out these homicides are in the city. I've obviously posted by community area before, but community areas are big - and for most community areas in town, there are areas with no homicides - sometimes an area may be very skewed. Each crime has a lat/long coordinate associated to it, so you can use the US Census's reverse geocode lookup (https://geocoding.geo.census.gov) to find out which census tract those belong to. The data is through 10/25.

So...............nearly 1.7 million people in Chicago, or about 62% of the population, live in census tracts that have had NO recorded homicides this year.

Some areas are extremely spread out with it. Every single census tract for Englewood has at least 1 recorded homicide this year. On the other end of the spectrum, Gage Park has 12 recorded homicides this year but 9 of those were in one tract alone. 67% of Gage Park lives in census tracts without a single recorded homicide this year. Humboldt Park has 22 homicides recorded this year, and 41% of them are in just 1 tract alone too.

In case you want to see this on a map, here you go. Anything that is white/gray looking has had 0 homicides this year thru 10/25:
https://chicagodata.carto.com/viz/30...68f/public_map
That's a interesting layout when you use the census tract map. Good link, majority of our cities should use something similar to it.
 
Old 11-04-2016, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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You have a penchant for beinghalf wrong huh? Houston is about 400K behind Chicago and if it continues on It's pace then it will be the same size then.

You knew I was talking about the four cities that are together 700k smaller than Chicago while having 200 more killings than Chicago. Stop it!!!
My mistake I misunderstood your angle and yet it's ridiculous to use all those cities collectively to compare to 1 city. Just move on .
 
Old 11-04-2016, 12:09 PM
 
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Wow, St. Louis is just out of control. Had no idea it's that bad.
 
Old 11-04-2016, 12:47 PM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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St. Louis 160/50.68
Baltimore 263/42.31
New Orleans 143/36.70
Memphis 193/29.43
Chicago 629/23.12
Milwaukee 131/21.83
Salinas 33/20.97
Richmond(CA) 20/18.23
Louisville 95/15.44
Oakland 62/14.79
Jacksonville 98/11.29
San Antonio 129/8.78
Lexington 20/6.36
Los Angeles 250/6.29
San Francisco 46/5.32
San Jose 42/4.09
Austin 28/3.00
Portland 17/2.69
Richmond: 55/25.00
Norfolk: 39/15.85
Virginia Beach: 13/2.87
Newport News: 17/9.29
 
Old 11-04-2016, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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That's a interesting layout when you use the census tract map. Good link, majority of our cities should use something similar to it.
Thanks. I'm curious how other cities which rank high in homicide do it. Actually I could do it for Detroit. They actually report their homicides by Census Tract. It really shows how skewed things are in Chicago. The numbers show that 75% of the homicides have actually occurred where only 19% of the population lives. That really, really sucks for those 19% of people (500K people) - I just wish more people would understand that actually in most US cities, even the ones people think are dangerous, that violent crime can be very isolated. Chicago is no exception and it's probably actually more isolated than Detroit, New Orleans, etc. 62% of the city of Chicago (1.7 million people) lives in areas with no homicides in them, during a year with a huge increase of homicides to levels not seen since the late 1990s.


Oh, and about Gage Park with one tract with 9 homicides. I totally forgot about this but there was an entire family of 6 killed in their home one night. People discovered it the next day or a few days later - they had no idea it had happened when it did. I don't think anybody has solved it yet, but those are counted as 6 homicides so that tract deserves an asterisk next to it IMO.
 
Old 11-04-2016, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Philadelphia is at 237 which is a rate of 15.1
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