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Getting further education does not guarantee employment. There are lot of people out there that are very well educated and still unemployed (I know of such people). I think instead of the Govt. just feeding money in creating jobs in the govt sector, they should guarantee jobs to those that take up education in their current field or in an another field if there are very less or no jobs in their current field. I also feel that companies (not all) out there are taking advantage of the current situation, by letting people go even when there is work, and make their balance employee do all the work. So both suffer- the ones that are laid off and the ones that are working. One has no work, the other is overworked. Not only overworked, but their pay is cut, and they are made to feel that they could lose their job anytime, if they do not put in 150% into their work. Employees are nervous someone else will take their job, so unity amongst them is gone ...who gains in this, any guesses???
If the only thing that someone knows how to do is kick carpet, hang sheetrock, or bolt parts onto cars on an assembly line, getting education or training so they can compete for other types of work is completely logical. Only an idiot would not do so.
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I think it's time, that employer stop laying off people and treating employees as people. If they stop, employees with confidence can spend money and we will have a better economy. I know its easier said than done, but to me it is simple logic.
Logic? Let's see, let's keep employees on even though we have no work and don't need that many workers so we can grind the company into the ground and eventually everyone is out of a job. Hmmm, lots of logic there.
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Maybe the govt, should put some policy in place for who can get laid off...Look at the govt, they have done layoffs in the recent past, but not a whole lot. That's why people are happy with govt jobs.
I kinda got carried away with my message. This thread is interesting and kinds of provokes a response even from the silent ones.
The last thing we need is more governmental interference into our economy. Why not just become Socialist? We all get a pig, a chicken, and five pounds of flour, and report to our assigned jobs each day, whether we have an aptitude for that type of work or not. Name a single country that has worked in. (Don't waste your time thinking too hard about it.)
Logic? Let's see, let's keep employees on even though we have no work and don't need that many workers so we can grind the company into the ground and eventually everyone is out of a job. Hmmm, lots of logic there.
I am not talking about employers where there is no work. If you read my post and understood it, I am referring to employers where they let employees go and dump their work on the employee that they continue to retain and make them work more hours and not pay them over time. I know this happens for a fact. I could cite alot of example, but it would just eat into my time, and energy and I am not one to sit front of the computer and do this type of messaging. Like I said this topic made me respond.
The last thing we need is more governmental interference into our economy. Why not just become Socialist? We all get a pig, a chicken, and five pounds of flour, and report to our assigned jobs each day, whether we have an aptitude for that type of work or not. Name a single country that has worked in. (Don't waste your time thinking too hard about it.)[/quote]
I do not want Govt interference, but this got to stop somewhere. It's a catch 22 situation- Employer laying off/not hiring/not paying well their employees, people not spending, hence employers not hiring. Who in this situation should give in...?
Also, I know of people that are double graduates, worked for 10+ years, taken certificate courses, are out of work. They are 40+ years old and though they are willing to start anew in a different field/willing to step back from their last title/salary, yet they are getting no calls. Why? ...maybe because someone does not want over experience older professional? I'm from the Human Resources background and I know exactly what goes on backstage.
Let's not beat on the weak (unemployed). I know of people that have 30+ years of experience that tried for work for a very long time. Now, frustrated are doing mere manual work at little more than minimum just to make end meet...I am sorry, most of them cannot even make ends meet. it's a sad situation. Earlier, American on an average really did not make much, most of them lived on credit. Now they do not even have that.
Also, I know of people that are double graduates, worked for 10+ years, taken certificate courses, are out of work. They are 40+ years old and though they are willing to start anew in a different field/willing to step back from their last title/salary, yet they are getting no calls. Why? ...maybe because someone does not want over experience older professional? I'm from the Human Resources background and I know exactly what goes on backstage.
Let's not beat on the weak (unemployed). I know of people that have 30+ years of experience that tried for work for a very long time. Now, frustrated are doing mere manual work at little more than minimum just to make end meet...I am sorry, most of them cannot even make ends meet. it's a sad situation. Earlier, American on an average really did not make much, most of them lived on credit. Now they do not even have that.
I have an MBA and I was laid off after 10+ years as a project manager in the construction industry. It's rough out there.
Trust me, living off of $ 330 a week isn't a fun experience.
Try living on $265 a week. That's what we get in AZ. It's rough and I don't think I am set for life. I moved in with parents which was devastating for me. I had enjoyed cooking, entertaining, decorating my apartment and now can't do any of that. I will stay in a cheap hotel until I find a job. Hopefully, that will be soon or I am going to have to seek counseling.
I've been unemployed but I never collected unemployment handouts.
I know it's hard - you walk up and down the street looking for any job postings, applying everywhere, waiting to be called for an interview, you take any job you can get in the meantime. You do farm work, factory work, restaurant work, you agree to work weekends, night shift -- anything.
I have tried to get all these types of jobs except for farm work and that is only because I am a bad asthmatic. Farm work would have a negative impact on my health because my asthma flares up really bad when I am around agriculture. I haven't been able to get these jobs due to being overqualified.
No it's not fun - but I would never sit around for over a year unemployed and waiting for some job to come knocking at my door.
I am totally scared that I will end up on unemployment for a year. I hate being on it because it is a lousy $265 a week. I am attending classes and doing just about anything to make myself marketable. Plus, living with parents SUCKS.
I think people have to start living in reality - if emailing a thousand resumes a day doesn't bring in something after months of doing that, then find another approach.
I honestly spend my weekends trying to think of new job hunting and interviewing techniques. My job hunt is a seven day a week job for me.
At some point, the government may realize it's out of money and starts cutting back on the unemployment checks, or makes you wait for the next extention -- then what?
Hopefully, I will have a job by then because unemployment sucks.
If you look around, you'll see plenty of people coming here finding and taking all kinds of jobs - because the jobs are there. They might be hard work jobs, or not real hard like picking fruit. Helping to bale hay isn't even all that hard - the work is out there but we have to stop thinking the government will always be there to take care of us.
They are taking those jobs if they are not labeled overqualified. Heck, I would even go back to retail if offered a job. I am going to try to apply at cell phone stores and electronic stores next week because I hear they hire college graduates on occasion.
Who said anyone is sitting around waiting for the "same job" to come back? I know I'm not.
Me neither. Obviously, if one has been unemployed for a year, they need to consider all options. I think if end up on unemployment for a year, I will look into leaving the U.S. for work.
annerk - I did find a job finally. After looking for 5-1/2 months. applying to 275 jobs and applying to a dozen retail positions. And going on 20 interviews and callbacks. I think I got lots of interviews because I was willing to work at a reasonably cheap wage, although still fair for my field.
Luckily I did not have to take a salary cut at the new job and it is working out well as a career move for me.
I got laid off in mid -08 and was working by fall of -08. I did manage to get one interview for a retail job, and they did not hire me even though I was willing to take their wage: $8.50/hr.. Even though that was all I did through high school and college at that same exact store chain!
They're being paid money to live on while they search for work to replace their previous employment. I don't consider that "doing nothing".
This is the kind of attitude that prompted me to write the original post.
I agree. In fact, it is a job finding a job. A person who is making a certain amount of salary is used to a certain standard of living. If that is taken away from him/her, they will try to get back on it asap. Many have put more than 100% in looking for work. Many of the unemployed are on unemployment benefit for the very first time in their life and are not happy about being on unemployment, but out of need (not want) they are on unemployment.
They are taking those jobs if they are not labeled overqualified. Heck, I would even go back to retail if offered a job. I am going to try to apply at cell phone stores and electronic stores next week because I hear they hire college graduates on occasion.
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So what are the people who normally work those lower end jobs supposed to do? There are plenty of US citizens who have worked for years as a custodian, stock clerk, or in fast food. What do you all think they should do when all of the people who think that just because they have a degree they should get one of those lower level jobs takes the jobs of the people who NEED them because they don't have the opportunity to do anything else? Some people have learning disabilities or just aren't really smart enough to attend colelge or trade school. Should they walk off into the woods to die?
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