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Paul ... that is not what the polls are showing (see my post #180). The problem for the Nationalists is that they have set out their case and they have nothing new to offer. Meanwhile, bit by bit, the pro-independence case is being demolished. The biggest blow by far is Westminster's refusal to enter a currency union and Salmond's inability to articulate a Plan B. But there are many other areas where voters are being asked to take a leap of faith without any substance to support that.
As ordinary people start to see that there may well be a real cost to independence in the form of higher mortgage rates, higher prices, etc. etc., then I think you will see more 'undecided' voters going into the No camp than are going into the Yes camp.
The best chance for Nationalists is a low turnout similar to the Scottish Government elections. But, right now, the polls are suggesting a 60% - 40% result against independence.
Jaggy... I am talking about ''on the ground''
At work, in my house and in the pub this is what I hear.
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Originally Posted by Ameriscot
All of the Yes people I've seen online are all claiming that everybody is 'bluffing' - Westminster, the banks, companies, gas companies. They've fooling themselves.
Why am I ''fooling'' myself because I am voting yes? You can't just label people because they think differently to you.
At work, in my house and in the pub this is what I hear.
Why am I ''fooling'' myself because I am voting yes? You can't just label people because they think differently to you.
And you are perfectly entitled to your opinion and your vote.
My own view is that Salmond is selling a bill of goods that he cannot deliver and that the reality is likely to be quite a lot worse for ordinary people than what they currently have with the Union.
Is my future less sh*t if we become independent, that's what it boils down to!
Because I am struggling to see a prosperous future if the Conservatives are in government every decade or so.
I'm a wee bit older than you and have seen quite a few governments come and go. In fact, the first General Election I voted in was February 1974. And here is a sad truth ... all governments are sh*t to a certain extent. But, from my experience and taking into account my circumstances, Conservative governments have been a bit less sh*t than Labour ones. And this is coming from someone who has never ever voted Conservative.
Ultimately, you are responsible for your future. Whether Scotland goes independent or not will make only a marginal difference compared to what you are willing to do for yourself. You can be prosperous under any government and in any country if you really want to be. But if you are waiting around in the hope that independence is going to make a substantive change in your circumstances then I fear that you are going to be disappointed.
I'm a wee bit older than you and have seen quite a few governments come and go. In fact, the first General Election I voted in was February 1974. And here is a sad truth ... all governments are sh*t to a certain extent. But, from my experience and taking into account my circumstances, Conservative governments have been a bit less sh*t than Labour ones. And this is coming from someone who has never ever voted Conservative.
Ultimately, you are responsible for your future. Whether Scotland goes independent or not will make only a marginal difference compared to what you are willing to do for yourself. You can be prosperous under any government and in any country if you really want to be. But if you are waiting around in the hope that independence is going to make a substantive change in your circumstances then I fear that you are going to be disappointed.
An excellent post. Governments promise the earth to get the populace vote but once they get into power, their real agenda
Comes to the fore. Sounds like some pro republicans live in cloud cuckoo land.
In his post paul805 mentions the "people on the ground" who said they would vote yes for independence. In 1975 the Labour government held a referendum on the UK's membership of the EU. Everyone seemed to be anti common market and it seemed that there would be a massive vote against membership.
People in pubs, at work, the "people on the ground" were all going to vote against the goverments advice to stay in the EU. And what happened? there was a huge yes vote, 67% of UK voters voted for membership of the EU. IF there is a moral to this story it is this, never listen to "people on the ground"
But Connery doesn't live in Scotland scobby, he hasn't for decades. If Scotland vote yes and everything goes t.ts up Mr Connery won't be effected, but his fellow Scots certainly will.
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Does it really matter ? Americans give their opinion about Russia and Ukraine it's ok,but not Connery ?
If he still feels he's scottish,he has every right to give his opinion,he's not forcing anybody to follow him.
Am I the only one who finds all this talk about independence an example of the tail wagging the dog?
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