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Old 04-30-2017, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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If coal jobs are mostly disappearing from competition with natural gas and mechanization, railroads are a better bet as it's easy to produce jobs greater than collapsing industry.
GVmnt doesn't create jobs.

Jobs are created when gvmnt is eliminated from the equation and free enterprise flourishes.
Railroads manage to sell a lousy $9 burger and still LOSE money on it.
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Old 04-30-2017, 11:09 AM
 
Location: The City of Buffalo!
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GVmnt doesn't create jobs.
Jobs are created when gvmnt is eliminated from the equation and free enterprise flourishes.
Railroads manage to sell a lousy $9 burger and still LOSE money on it.
Yes it does, look at the military starting with inside the Pentagon itself.
Buying food isn't going to subsidize anything. I just saw a price of $11 for a 'burger and it wasn't on a train.

Really lame responses.
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Old 04-30-2017, 11:34 AM
 
Location: The City of Buffalo!
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To believe that's the way it is and the way it has to be and it can't be changed is ridiculous.
Past mistakes can be reversed.

And to the one with the greatest 'blinders' on IC_deLight; your comments are blinded by your refusal or inability of reading what was posted.
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Old 04-30-2017, 01:34 PM
 
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Spoken like a true Republican..

Another tight wade, cheapskate, selfish, narrow minded, 'what's in it for me' anti environment that doesn't complain about spending trillions on the "Industrial Military Complex", but won't spend a dine on a domestic program that actually shows results, EXCEPT for another highway or airport.

Yes, it's YOU that are narrow minded. All YOU care about is a cheap ride on a federal subsidized highway or plane from a federal subsidized airport. BOTH which are environmental unfriendly!

And as far as "don't tax me for it", can say the EXACT thing about your modes of transportation!
I Was for decades a Liberal Democrat but today Im much more a Libertarian. I cant stand the military spending or over regulation of the republicans either. However after campaigning for decades for many of the public works projects, Ive found that the people and officials who champion them do so for their own enrichment and political gain using the monies that were supposed to go for Building sensible projects instead of actually building a piece of useful infrastructure. So I decline to pay for it.
However I have personally built 2 much needed schools (under my own use conditions) and invested heavily in one of the worlds most profitable light rail systems. Which happens to be private. And provide free services to help schools become more energy efficient.
What have you done for the huddling masses?
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Old 04-30-2017, 01:35 PM
 
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A number of large western European cities, Japan. Don't feel like looking up the numbers.



There's no evidence people are willing to walk the same to a local bus as rail (or express bus). For it to be the same implies people don't care about transit time or speed, which sounds like an odd conjecture. Any city that has rail every mile would have grade separated in some way, doesn't mess up much.



He said Denver is an outlier in being isolated so doesn't "count" in that regard. Where'd he say it didn't count for anything? Denver built a lot of rail in the last five years; by track miles more any other city in recent years. The Longmont line is the one line out of many that didn't make it.

I'm wondering who is going to pay for and maintain all these rail crossings with all these tracks every mile..........Maintaining a rail "diamond" is very difficult and labor intensive............also the parts are very expensive.
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Old 04-30-2017, 04:58 PM
 
Location: The City of Buffalo!
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I'm wondering who is going to pay for and maintain all these rail crossings with all these tracks every mile..........Maintaining a rail "diamond" is very difficult and labor intensive............also the parts are very expensive.
Since the highway system is federally (and state) funded, then it would only be fair for them to pick up the tab. After all, you do want to be fair and have all modes of transportation on a level playing field??
Of course we can always eliminate federal funding of the highway system along with airports and let the user pay directly when they actually use either.

BTW, diamonds are mostly a thing of the past. Great lengths go to avoiding them with any new or rebuild. Chicago is the best example with the number of projects going on there..
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Old 04-30-2017, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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Coal is going away in the U.S. because of competition.
Gas is cheap, extremely abundant and easy to transport.

I suppose it could be exported, but mining can also be automated.
Don't many future labor opportunities in coal mining.

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Old 04-30-2017, 05:42 PM
 
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Coal is going away in the U.S. because of competition.
Gas is cheap, extremely abundant and easy to transport.


I suppose it could be exported, but mining can also be automated.
Don't many future labor opportunities in coal mining.
Coal is much cheaper than natural gas. Unlike gas, you can also store large quantities of it to prevent brown outs which happen constantly in gas plants and almost never in coal plants.
We export massive amounts of coal to china and other countries from places like wyoming and would be exporting much more if it wasent for the constant lawsuits from the pacific states who dont want it transported thru their rail links to their ports yet want to pay the cheap price of coal fired electricity from the coal producing states.
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Old 04-30-2017, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Northern Maine
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Yes it does, look at the military starting with inside the Pentagon itself.
Buying food isn't going to subsidize anything. I just saw a price of $11 for a 'burger and it wasn't on a train.

Really lame responses.
OK then try it this way,

Seattle times is a socialist rag, socialism has been rejected.
Get over it.
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Old 04-30-2017, 07:13 PM
 
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The cost of land in a place with balanced supply/demand, plus the cost to build an average housing unit. Roughly $140,000 to break even. Add another $50,000 for developer profit and the fact that it costs a little bit more to build in urban settings due to logistics, and you get a downtown housing unit for $190,000.
Made up math. The cost of land varies wildly depending upon where in the country you are and local location. There is zero justification to apply your numbers to anywhere, USA.

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Construction prices aren't that much more in urban cores than suburbs. Construction prices are much higher underwater or on Mars. Maybe your logic is faulty?
BS. Construction prices are much higher in urban areas because of all the regulations urbanophiles place on construction.

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Great description of overcrowded transit. That just builds up the case that we should spend more on rail, so it is less crowded.
It's a bottomless pit and all you've suggested is more congested residential in order to make it worse.
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