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Old 04-29-2017, 07:51 PM
 
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"Stop subsidizing driving..."

https://www.citylab.com/transportati...__link3_021717

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Assuming population growth continues, and doubles every 50 years, it is reasonable to assume that food production will have to double as well. Since yield is not amenable to mass production, but dependent upon arable land, the amount of land under cultivation will need to double, as well.

Based on the finite amount of land, the obvious conclusion is that humans have to CONSOLIDATE POPULATION, and reclaim as much arable land lost to SPRAWL, so that we can prosper.

Likewise, our transportation system will also have to cease consuming large amounts of surface area, which supports the renaissance of electric traction rail, for urban and interurban transportation.
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Old 04-29-2017, 07:52 PM
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Assuming population growth continues, and [B
doubles every 50 years[/b], it is reasonable to assume that food production will have to double as well. Since yield is not amenable to mass production, but dependent upon arable land, the amount of land under cultivation will need to double, as well.
this seems like a bad assumption...
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Old 04-29-2017, 08:03 PM
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As far as land use, most of the LR stations in Denver have parking. DU has a parking garage. I don't know about the others I posted pictures of; I've never been there.
I saw an article saying 8% live within 1/2 mile walk of a Denver light rail station; so they wouldn't support much ridership relying on just those in walking distance.

You can have a rail system where (1) most of the region's population doesn't live in walking distance to a stop; but (2) a majority of riders do as people who use rail choose to live near a station. The better used rail system tend to connect particularly dense spots either job/ residence or other amnenities even if it can't reach everywhere. These are usually the less car friendly places anyway.
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Old 04-29-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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I looked at the total coal output from Wyoming...its been dropping past few years because china is shifting from coal to renewable energy.
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Old 04-29-2017, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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"Stop subsidizing driving..."

https://www.citylab.com/transportati...__link3_021717

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Assuming population growth continues, and doubles every 50 years, it is reasonable to assume that food production will have to double as well. Since yield is not amenable to mass production, but dependent upon arable land, the amount of land under cultivation will need to double, as well.

Based on the finite amount of land, the obvious conclusion is that humans have to CONSOLIDATE POPULATION, and reclaim as much arable land lost to SPRAWL, so that we can prosper.

Likewise, our transportation system will also have to cease consuming large amounts of surface area, which supports the renaissance of electric traction rail, for urban and interurban transportation.
As nei I said, that's quite an assumption. The birth rate is at a far lower level than it was a generation ago. There is no shortage of arable land in the US; only 2% of people are engaged in agriculture.
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Old 04-29-2017, 08:45 PM
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As nei I said, that's quite an assumption. The birth rate is at a far lower level than it was a generation ago. There is no shortage of arable land in the US; only 2% of people are engaged in agriculture.
US population growth is nearly all immigration-driven now; but the last 15 years has been the slowest population growth time in US history except for maybe the Depression, which was nearly immigration-less unlike now.
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Old 04-29-2017, 08:47 PM
 
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Don't tell the selfish psychopathic reactionaries on here that. They all throw hissy fits whenever someone mentions doing anything for the common good that gets in the way of their selfish asses.
There is no such thing as a "common good"; it's a meaningless buzz-phrase invariably invoked by those seeking power for their own purposes -- and those who do have a very ugly record of subjugating and silencing those who don't see it their way. With the exception of the Native peoples and those who came in slave ships, most of our ancestors came here to escape the effects of the misuse of power.

"Remember, power tends to corrupt ... and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

(John Dahlberg - Acton)
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Old 04-29-2017, 08:56 PM
 
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US population growth is nearly all immigration-driven now; but the last 15 years has been the slowest population growth time in US history except for maybe the Depression, which was nearly immigration-less unlike now.
And the government pays farmers not to grow crops. Plus the government creates markets for farmers such as SNAP and the National School Lunch Program.
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Old 04-29-2017, 09:02 PM
 
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If supply met demand, it would cost less than $200,000 to buy the average house in an urban core.
Based on what?

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Since it costs more than that, demand is therefore higher.
Hmm, let's apply that logic:
It costs more than that to have underwater housing. Therefore demand is higher for underwater housing.
It costs more than that to have housing on Mars. Therefore demand is higher for housing on Mars.
Maybe your logic is faulty?

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I guess driving is more comfortable if you consider sitting still behind a wheel unable to do anything else and getting very frustrated to be comfortable. I don't.
Well if you are going to stereotype all driving then why not do the same for all transit?

Waiting to board at a transit station because the first two trains were too full due to the transit service not providing adequate service (despite the cost)[complaints about NYC MTA from article]? Standing room only? The press of humanity? The smell of barf lady and stinky man?

In your own car you have much greater control over what time you leave, what route you take, what your destination is, who is next to you, the air temperature and volume, and ambient noise, among other things. Certainly don't see how being unable to do anything while waiting to catch transit or being unable to do anything while sitting/standing on transit to be better...
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Old 04-29-2017, 09:04 PM
 
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this seems like a bad assumption...
Actually, it's very good.
Depopulation is occurring in socialist countries, while non-socialist countries are pumping out surplus and sending them overseas.

https://esa.un.org/unpd/wpp/Download...rd/Population/

WORLD : 1.18 % (60 year doubling)
USA : 0.75% (93 year doubling)
Mexico : 1.37% (51 year doubling)

Guess who is exporting their surplus population?
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