always lol when people say san francisco or NYC are the most european cities in america (Washington: how much, houses)
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America without the North or South distinction means USA. Failing to preface America means we could throw Santiago, Buenos Aires, and a host of others into the mix.
Ask any Canuck. He'll tell you. Man, we'll he tell you.
It doesn't to educated people. America includes North, Central and South. It's important to use language with precision.
When people say NYC and SF are more "European", I think they are more describing the overall cultural feel of those cities. Both NYC and SF have large ethnic European populations whereas DC does not. DC's white population is more closely related to New England WASP culture than that of ethnic European nationalities like Irish, Russians and Italians. In terms of actual culture, I don't think of DC as European. Historically, the main culture in DC is the unique homegrown black culture. But slowly, the homegrown black culture in DC of Go-Go music, local independent clothing boutiques, ghetto unpretentious nightclubs and hood carryout spots are being displaced with yuppieization and gentrification in the addition of suburban corporate middle American staples like Walmart, Chipotle, CVS and things like Capital bikeshare.
I think what throws people off is that European is such a broad term with so many different cultures that people associate European with different things. SF is definitely very Portuguese, DC is very French/Belgian, NYC is somewhat similar to London, Boston is very similar to many British cities, New Orleans is very Spanish
When people say NYC and SF are more "European", I think they are more describing the overall cultural feel of those cities. Both NYC and SF have large ethnic European populations whereas DC does not. DC's white population is more closely related to New England WASP culture than that of ethnic European nationalities like Irish, Russians and Italians. In terms of actual culture, I don't think of DC as European. Historically, the main culture in DC is the unique homegrown black culture. But slowly, the homegrown black culture in DC of Go-Go music, local independent clothing boutiques, ghetto unpretentious nightclubs and hood carryout spots are being displaced with yuppieization and gentrification in the addition of suburban corporate middle American staples like Walmart, Chipotle, CVS and things like Capital bikeshare.
DC's white population used to be a solid mix of WASPs, Jews, and ethnic Europeans but that ended back in the 1960's. Now, it's practically WASP for the most part.
I think what throws people off is that European is such a broad term with so many different cultures that people associate European with different things. SF is definitely very Portuguese, DC is very French/Belgian, NYC is somewhat similar to London, Boston is very similar to many British cities, New Orleans is very Spanish
This.
Savannah (at least the Historic District area) and Charleston are very British looking cities as well.
Older Colonial cities do have a somewhat of a European vibe. What a thoughtful observation. Regardless of which continent it "resembles" I feel Washington, D.C. with is beautiful public buildings, monuments, parks and greenery is gorgeous no matter what. One of the most beautiful in the country in my opinion and worthy to be the capital of our beloved country!
DC's white population used to be a solid mix of WASPs, Jews, and ethnic Europeans but that ended back in the 1960's. Now, it's practically WASP for the most part.
tcave, you've mentioned this on these threads several times before. Do you have any links with information? When I try and search, the only information that comes up is about newer ethnic groups (Ethiopians, El Salvadorians), but nothing about historical European groups in DC (other than stuff related to embassy's). Growing up in the DMV, I've never heard about European ethnic enclaves being in DC, other than a strong Jewish presence in some parts of the city.
tcave, you've mentioned this on these threads several times before. Do you have any links with information? When I try and search, the only information that comes up is about newer ethnic groups (Ethiopians, El Salvadorians), but nothing about historical European groups in DC (other than stuff related to embassy's). Growing up in the DMV, I've never heard about European ethnic enclaves being in DC, other than a strong Jewish presence in some parts of the city.
Yes I have provided links explaining that subject in various threads on this forum and in City vs. City in the past. Imma dig some up for you.
tcave, you've mentioned this on these threads several times before. Do you have any links with information? When I try and search, the only information that comes up is about newer ethnic groups (Ethiopians, El Salvadorians), but nothing about historical European groups in DC (other than stuff related to embassy's). Growing up in the DMV, I've never heard about European ethnic enclaves being in DC, other than a strong Jewish presence in some parts of the city.
Here's one thread people have provided information including myself (unfortunately some of the links no longer have the in-depth information regarding a European presence in DC for some reason):
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