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Old 03-23-2015, 04:55 PM
 
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The time article shows that the average DC resident is wealthier than the average resident in any other city besides SF & SJ. So your whole argument that DC only has a high carless rate because of its poverty rate is completely moot. Not to mention a quick google search showed that NYC's 2012 poverty rate was 22% compared to DC's 18%, so couldn't you say that NYC only has a high carless rate because of its high poverty rate?
Au contraire -- you obviously don't know how to analyze these statistics for the bigger picture. "Wealthy" and "very wealthy" have no meaning in a city when there is such a large underclass as there is in Washington. Washington has some of the nation's biggest movers and shakers concentrated in limited affluent areas, and D.C. would have to have some fabulously wealthy people. It's the nation's capital. But Washington's poverty rate is still high at 18% (higher than the national average), and this affects the carless rate in a city.

Back to the earlier posts: Washington is nowhere near as "Europeanized" as New York, even in most areas of the Outer Boroughs where I live. NY has a more European lifestyle, and that is what the media is talking about (it's not architecture or Gothic cathedrals or men named Pierre).
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Old 03-23-2015, 05:06 PM
 
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Au contraire -- you obviously don't know how to analyze these statistics for the bigger picture. "Wealthy" and "very wealthy" have no meaning in a city when there is such a large underclass as there is in Washington. Washington has some of the nation's biggest movers and shakers concentrated in limited affluent areas, and D.C. would have to have some fabulously wealthy people. It's the nation's capital. But Washington's poverty rate is still high at 18% (higher than the national average), and this affects the carless rate in a city.

Back to the earlier posts: Washington is nowhere near as "Europeanized" as New York, even in most areas of the Outer Boroughs where I live. NY has a more European lifestyle, and that is what the media is talking about (it's not architecture or Gothic cathedrals or men named Pierre).
Didn't you read my posts? The average salary in DC is $90k, compared to NYC's $70k. DC's average salary is the highest in the nation. DC also has the 3rd largest "wealthy" population in the US, behind only SF & SJ. Finally, DC's poverty rate is lower than that of NYC's which is 22%. So your statements have no factual evidence to support them
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Old 03-23-2015, 05:39 PM
 
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Didn't you read my posts? The average salary in DC is $90k, compared to NYC's $70k. DC's average salary is the highest in the nation. DC also has the 3rd largest "wealthy" population in the US, behind only SF & SJ. Finally, DC's poverty rate is lower than that of NYC's which is 22%. So your statements have no factual evidence to support them
DC does not have higher salaries than DC. If you're a working adult, you'd earn more in NYC. DC has more multi-people households, less unemployed people which makes it seem different.

NYC and Bay Areas, places where they actually produce stuff, have highest weekly wages in the nation according to the BLS.

The 10 large U.S. counties with the highest average weekly wages in the first quarter:

New York, N.Y.: $2,749
Santa Clara, Calif.: $2,074
San Mateo, Calif.: $2,058
Somerset, N.J.: $2,048
San Francisco, Calif.: $1,944
Fairfield, Conn.: $1,922
Suffolk, Mass.: $1,852
Washington, D.C.: $1,701
Arlington, Va.: $1,669
Morris, N.J.: $1,646

[url]http://www.staffingindustry.com/Research-Publications/Daily-News/New-York-County-posts-highest-wage-in-Q1-31521[/url]

And $150k is not wealthy. We have a slightly higher % of those in that massive metro area, but it means nothing when you look at it in the grand scale. Manhattan alone has thousands more people who earn over $1MM than the entire states of MD and VA combined PLUS DC, and that place only has like 1.5 million people. Also these numbers would triple if you added in the rest of that city and their suburbs.

Million Dollar Earners

Manhattan: 18,952
DC: 1,403
MD: 5,744
VA: 6,784

[url=http://rochester.nydatabases.com/database/wealthy-taxpayers-new-york-state]Wealthy taxpayers in New York state | democratandchronicle.com[/url]
[url=http://www.bloomberg.com/visual-data/best-and-worst/most-million-dollar-tax-filers-states]Most Million-Dollar Tax Filers: States - Bloomberg Best (and Worst)[/url]


Yes, the Government is a great employer and pays above average wage but this is not a truly rich city. People in this city are getting way too big for their britches. It's not SF. It's not NYC.
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Old 03-23-2015, 06:43 PM
 
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DC does not have higher salaries than DC. If you're a working adult, you'd earn more in NYC. DC has more multi-people households, less unemployed people which makes it seem different.

NYC and Bay Areas, places where they actually produce stuff, have highest weekly wages in the nation according to the BLS.

The 10 large U.S. counties with the highest average weekly wages in the first quarter:

New York, N.Y.: $2,749
Santa Clara, Calif.: $2,074
San Mateo, Calif.: $2,058
Somerset, N.J.: $2,048
San Francisco, Calif.: $1,944
Fairfield, Conn.: $1,922
Suffolk, Mass.: $1,852
Washington, D.C.: $1,701
Arlington, Va.: $1,669
Morris, N.J.: $1,646

New York County posts highest wage in Q1

And $150k is not wealthy. We have a slightly higher % of those in that massive metro area, but it means nothing when you look at it in the grand scale. Manhattan alone has thousands more people who earn over $1MM than the entire states of MD and VA combined PLUS DC, and that place only has like 1.5 million people. Also these numbers would triple if you added in the rest of that city and their suburbs.

Million Dollar Earners

Manhattan: 18,952
DC: 1,403
MD: 5,744
VA: 6,784

Wealthy taxpayers in New York state | democratandchronicle.com
Most Million-Dollar Tax Filers: States - Bloomberg Best (and Worst)


Yes, the Government is a great employer and pays above average wage but this is not a truly rich city. People in this city are getting way too big for their britches. It's not SF. It's not NYC.
What are you even saying. I never said DC has more millionaires than NYC. I said DC's average income is higher than that of NYC's
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/americ...152241126.html
The 33 richest cities in the United States | WGN-TV
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Old 03-23-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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Au contraire -- you obviously don't know how to analyze these statistics for the bigger picture. "Wealthy" and "very wealthy" have no meaning in a city when there is such a large underclass as there is in Washington. Washington has some of the nation's biggest movers and shakers concentrated in limited affluent areas, and D.C. would have to have some fabulously wealthy people. It's the nation's capital. But Washington's poverty rate is still high at 18% (higher than the national average), and this affects the carless rate in a city.

Back to the earlier posts: Washington is nowhere near as "Europeanized" as New York, even in most areas of the Outer Boroughs where I live. NY has a more European lifestyle, and that is what the media is talking about (it's not architecture or Gothic cathedrals or men named Pierre).
Same with Miami. Miami is very poor.
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