bmsea,
I know what you mean about Hawaii. When I was young and naive I could not understand why the locals were sometimes so hostile to outsiders, besides wanting the best waves for themselves
But when you look at where Hawaii was in terms of natural beauty and pollution say 50 years ago compared to now it is really sad. I just saw a special on the nature channel showing the devastation to the reefs, fish and entire ecosystem.
Maybe some of that destruction can be reversed. But I bet a lot of it cannot with the current population living there
