Any advice from Preppers on future home in WA?

[PrincessoftheCape]

Originally Posted by Blackhawk4440

If a real revolution like you depicted ever happened, these protestors and rioters would suddenly become the strongest supporters and willing soldiers of the State.

Oh, absolutely. I have no doubt about that one.

[nowhereman427]

Originally Posted by Yojimbo11

As a prepper I'm leaving Washington, the only nice places are on the Islands and the land price is high and Islands are close to land masses are going to be death traps should SHTF and way to Many socialists in this state.

In a WWIII Scenario we are a primary nuclear target, we have nuclear bases all over the state, we don't get many natural disasters but when we do get a Volcano that goes or a big quake its going to be bad.


To many socialists in this state make it really expensive to live despite the tax situation on paper.

Here's the problems for someone self sufficient, Unless you are a welfare recipient or in the Military your food costs are really high up here.

Why?

Public groceries stores are all heavily unionized, even Walmart is expensive in this state.
Food-stamps don't get hit with the sales tax on food here, and the generous $800 minimum they hand out encourages stores to jack the prices up.

Soldiers buy on base with all kinds of discounts and being a large percent of the population and unaffected creates a climate where this situation isn't going to change.

So if you have a job and are paying cash for anything its pricey.


State employees start at $50K a year so get ready to bend over during property tax season because every paper pusher in the state is going to have their hand out and sending you a bill.

The property tax rate is caped low at %1 I think it is? They make up for it with bizarre mandatory services with dozens of small fees and unexplained taxes. The unionized garbage man in pierce county starts at 60K a year and has full benefits and his services are mandatory as a act of law, he charges $180-$250 a month and they tie it to your power service so if you can't pay him they will shut your lights off because taking away the 3 Gallon can they give you is no threat at all.




If you are a solider, welfare recipient or state employee Washington is great, if you have any type of private sector job or ambitions do not move here.

Washington state revolves around people in hovels paying $4,000 a year in property taxes to watch section 8'ers moving in to new houses for $150 a month and get free groceries.


If you make anything less than $25 per hour full time and benefits you can expect to have a lower quality of life than those on public dependence.

50K a year for a state worker is excellent especially if it is entry level.
$4,000 a year for property tax???????? That's why I keep hearing people are losing their homes in Washington because they can't afford the property tax that goes up real high no cap.

[nowhereman427]

Originally Posted by Seacove

The poster made a list of reasons WA was not good for preppers. I simply supported their opinion. And yes, I think preppers are pretty silly, using acronyms like needing to be ready when the SHTF because they see themselves as Randy Quaid bracing for aliens (or socialists!). To each his own.

Isn't Idaho State a good place for the above?

[nowhereman427]

Originally Posted by PS90

Oh please. You were clearly encouraging people who labeled themselves as "preppers" to leave, or not move to, WA state.

I don't know much about the "prepper" lifestyle, but I'm assuming that the average prepper doesn't fit your mold of who is acceptable to live in Washington? I'm not a prepper, but I am certainly a gun-toting redneck. Should my friends and I be banished to Montana or Wyoming, too?

What is a prepper lifestyle? Is it the same as a "survivalist" Isn't Idaho better for that kind of lifestyle if a survivalist?
100% pro gun and in gun control in being able to hit your target.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by nowhereman427

50K a year for a state worker is excellent especially if it is entry level.
$4,000 a year for property tax???????? That's why I keep hearing people are losing their homes in Washington because they can't afford the property tax that goes up real high no cap.

No Prop 13 here.

Originally Posted by nowhereman427

Isn't Idaho State a good place for the above?

Yes, definitely. I think there's even a "Doomsday Preppers in Idaho" Facebook page.

[nowhereman427]

Originally Posted by Gully Foyle

I have started researching where to move in WA. I'm interested in the rural parts.
I understand the Preppers are into self sufficiency and preparedness. Which makes sense in case of an emergency.
Any advice on what to seek in properties? On adaptations, like generators or solar pumps for wells, that are must haves? Advice on raising animals, Goats/Chickens/mini-cows (Smaller produce near the same and have a few breeders in the state)?
Right now I'm looking for at least ten acres, preferably more, with well and septic. I've seen a couple of homes with Geothermal but am uncertain of the benefits. Few have back up generators, which isn't really that much of a problem. But is fuel or propane better? I've seen a few properties with future potential for logging. Would be nice for a small source of income, or just to add to my own firewood.
Not really sure how hard it is to raise the animals I mentioned. No idea how much vet time and money gets spent. I do know it isn't hard to pasteurize milk or make your own cheese/butter/buttermilk.
I garden now and freeze, haven't canned yet.
Thanks for any advice shared.

How about the northern part of Washington towards Vancouver border in Whatcom County area?

[Ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by Seacove

No Prop 13 here.

The voters of Washington approved I-747 into law.

I-747 put limits on property tax increases and was very effective until it was overturned by a single Judge.

I personally know one property owner that suffered an 80% increase over the purchase price 18 months before.

Washington State is a beautiful State with much going for it... especially good if you earn lots of money because there is no State Income Tax...

I would rather pay Income Tax if it would keep Property Tax in check...

There are several on this board that pay a $1000 a month Property Tax on homes they built...

[nowhereman427]

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner

The voters of Washington approved I-747 into law.

I-747 put limits on property tax increases and was very effective until it was overturned by a single Judge.

I personally know one property owner that suffered an 80% increase over the purchase price 18 months before.

Washington State is a beautiful State with much going for it... especially good if you earn lots of money because there is no State Income Tax...

I would rather pay Income Tax if it would keep Property Tax in check...

There are several on this board that pay a $1000 a month Property Tax on homes they built...

That's crazy and just too risky for a person to lose their long time home.