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Hey don't bash liberals. I happen to be a liberal, and my whole mom's mom's side of the family is from Charlotte, NC and Tri Cities, TN (Bristol, Kingsport, Johnson City)
The tri cities are a pretty rural area in the mountains.
Record low in London is 8 and some places just a stone throw away have gone subzero.
8F is still far better than -1F.
Admit that you sure wish your winter deviation wasn't anywhere near what it is, and the South would look far far different if the standard deviation matched that of other subtropical climates in the world.
Admit that you sure wish your winter deviation wasn't anywhere near what it is, and the South would look far far different if the standard deviation matched that of other subtropical climates in the world.
Doesn't that work both ways though? Standard deviations could be negative or positive. I wonder how the south's extreme positive deviations compare with other subtropical climates?
Admit that you sure wish your winter deviation wasn't anywhere near what it is, and the South would look far far different if the standard deviation matched that of other subtropical climates in the world.
Maybe, so as long as we get the warm days in winter still np, and occasional thunderstorms and 60 degree Lows, as long as I get to still be able to experience all this in winter bring it on. Would die for no extreme cold lows. Tired of having to check every model nervously scared that it might be a sub zero run.
Doesn't that work both ways though? Standard deviations could be negative or positive. I wonder how the south's extreme positive deviations compare with other subtropical climates?
Far greater. Sydney for instance has not broken 80 in January ever, neither has Malta or anywhere for that matter in the med, not too mention none of these place have pulled off 60-65 degree lows in winter.
yes the very cold hardy kind, not date palms. There was one at the local garden I visited, but it was killed in 2014. They may last a decade or so in Augusta, but will eventually be taken out. I would bet that after a few decades, just like in the 80's, the ones in Savannah will be taken out as well. There are no large CIDP's in Savannah. In fact I'd say they are the same size as the ones in the UK. Crazy that is.
Why is that crazy? They have the same hardiness zone.
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Far greater. Sydney for instance has not broken 80 in January ever, neither has Malta or anywhere for that matter in the med, not too mention none of these place have pulled off 60-65 degree lows in winter.
Don't you mean July? January is the peak of SUMMER in Sydney
Maybe, so as long as we get the warm days in winter still np, and occasional thunderstorms and 60 degree Lows, as long as I get to still be able to experience all this in winter bring it on. Would die for no extreme cold lows. Tired of having to check every model nervously scared that it might be a sub zero run.
I agree with you there and I do the same thing, and all winter long I have to put up with George and Cambium taunting me with the coldest runs possible they can find.
What is amazing to me is when you go into google streetview in Australia, basically any city there at 300 meters or below has all kinds of exotic palms growing. I looked yesterday at Condolobin.
Avg July high/low 59/39 almost exactly the same as Charleston Airport 15 miles inland. This place is 33N latitude and 250 miles inland. Show me anywhere in the South at that latitude and distance inland growing palms like that? Forget about it you just can't. I'm sure I could find the same in Spain or Italy or Argentina or South Africa, but not the South. The winter deviations are too extreme.
take a look for yourself keeping in mind the avg July min is 39F.
yes the very cold hardy kind, not date palms. There was one at the local garden I visited, but it was killed in 2014. They may last a decade or so in Augusta, but will eventually be taken out. I would bet that after a few decades, just like in the 80's, the ones in Savannah will be taken out as well. There are no large CIDP's in Savannah. In fact I'd say they are the same size as the ones in the UK. Crazy that is.
I find that one hard to believe. Either way, CIPD's aren't really suited for the climate there, they aren't common in Florida either, Florida's CIDP's rarely look as stunning as those in California. You'll come across a lot of P. dactylifera in Florida, which I prefer over CIDP's, although I like both.
Far greater. Sydney for instance has not broken 80 in January ever, neither has Malta or anywhere for that matter in the med, not too mention none of these place have pulled off 60-65 degree lows in winter.
That's what I thought.
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I agree with you there and I do the same thing, and all winter long I have to put up with George and Cambium taunting me with the coldest runs possible they can find.
I would be very happy if those cold runs during the winter are just in the Midwest, and the Northeast remains mild, but then Cambium would have a problem with that
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