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Texas. Too much of Japan has too much snow, and that is a huge penalty for me
Nonsense! Japan is an equatorial climate with no such thing, Texas is in the US! So that means we must designate it, erroneously, a frigid continental subarctic climate with hemiboreal forest - ignore citrus cultivation in the state, you would be hard-pressed to grow a strawberry in only hot-summer humid continental Brownsville!
Japan is only symbolically humid continental according to Koppen. In reality, it is tropical equatorial monsoonal everwarm, with the ability to grow palms - because look at *any given place in America's* record lows in contrast! That's evidently indicative of a harsh subarctic continental climate regime that only exists in America - Vancouver, in contrast, is ultra mediterranean territory, with beautiful chaparral forests and swaying CIDPs.
The UK? The UK is ultra subtropical monsoonal rainforest - it would've been a great territory for plantation agriculture in the colonial age. It is indeed far more subtropical than the Carolina's, as evidenced by the splendid subtropical jungle along the Scilly and southern England coast, with swaying coconuts and near-tropical fruit cultivation. Florida is, by comparison, a cold-adjacent warm but continental temperate climate with Royal palms hardly being able to survive the regular incursions of feet of snow and ice that the state gets - Miami received snow in 1977! Is that not indicative of an ultra extreme cold frigid northerly ice landscape that just happens to have palm trees because of silly humans? Alligators just wandered into these climates, they're really meant to inhabit areas much farther south, they should come over to mediterranean tropical-land southern Europe! They'd like it better here!
(in reality it seems like a few things have happened on this forum: 1) Certain Americans who are cold-weather fans want to "exotify" their climate in the cold sense by exaggerating the extent and frequency of cold weather, even in warm or subtropical locations in America, to the extreme 2) Certain foreign posters jump at this tendency, because, living in colder countries, it gives them the opportunity to pretend like America's climate is as bad or worse than theirs - hence, the ridiculous "the US is a climate failure" threads and the oddly narrow obsession with classifying America's subtropical/tropical/continental climate boundaries. We get less threads about how cold Vancouver is than we do threads about how much of a subtropical paradise London, Vancouver, Tromso, Norway, etc, are, compared to the American south, and how much they can allegedly grow in such places, whereas people on this forum bizarrely attack and smear anyone who calls the American south subtropical, points out it's subtropical native flora and fauna, emphasizes it's history of plantation agriculture, it's warmer average temps, it's lower latitude...things that are simple, immovable facts. 3) Emphasis on coldness and continentality (even in circumstances where it hardly defines the average or median climatic conditions of a location in America) becomes overdone in an attempt to always penalize American climates vs everyone else's. Despite it's climate diversity and warm climate regions, or despite a given location's average, average high, mean maximum, or record high, America becomes a mascot for "cold continentality" and every location in America gets erroneously written off due to "colder extremes", even if it is objectively warmer on average than a given location elsewhere in the world. We're supposed to love Canada's or Japan's climate better relative to the USA or Texas, for example, because of narrow warm regions like Vancouver or the Ryukyu Islands, even when warm climate regions make up an entirety or much larger proportions of the USA's or Texas' territory - for some reason. To "beat America", they must change the rules and subvert reality, on everything from climate to "urbanity" to culture to "walkability" to health to wealth...)
Last edited by magicinterest; 02-15-2021 at 07:19 AM..
Nonsense! Japan is an equatorial climate with no such thing, Texas is in the US! So that means we must designate it, erroneously, a frigid continental subarctic climate with hemiboreal forest - ignore citrus cultivation in the state, you would be hard-pressed to grow a strawberry in only hot-summer humid continental Brownsville!
It's just a fact. The US is sorely lacking when it comes to equable, desirable climates - no wonder the territory lacked in the way of complex civilizations.
It's just a fact. The US is sorely lacking when it comes to equable, desirable climates - no wonder the territory lacked in the way of complex civilizations.
There was the mississippians which had the city
of cahokia which was a large city for it's time and could definitely be considered a complex civilization , The climate in much of the United States definitely has issues but also Japan has a ton of issues that effect civilization to like tsunamis, earthquakes, typhoons and blizzards in the northern half of it, some areas get more snow than even the great lakes region and it was still able to become a complex civilization, If the land the united states was on had a climate so bad that complex civilizations couldn't develop then the us would've probably been a much less less populated and likely poorer country
There was the mississippians which had the city
of cahokia which was a large city for it's time and could definitely be considered a complex civilization , The climate in much of the United States definitely has issues but also Japan has a ton of issues that effect civilization to like tsunamis, earthquakes, typhoons and blizzards in the northern half of it, some areas get more snow than even the great lakes region and it was still able to become a complex civilization, If the land the united states was on had a climate so bad that complex civilizations couldn't develop then the us would've probably been a much less less populated and likely poorer country
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