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I never said barren and rocky. As for no storms, the West coast averages fewer than 5 thunderstorms a year, so many years will have none. The Mediterranean probably gets more, but a significant amount of Mediterranean climates get hardly any. And most places with these climates average no snow in year or maybe 1-2 days. Sure, snows can happen, but it is rare in most places with med climates.
Mediterranean climates are boring for weather nerds who crave constant change, temperature extremes, and precipitation.
Growing up in Ohio I completely agree. I even think the weather in central Texas is pretty boring..at least we get thunderstorms. I really miss the snowy winters.
I never said barren and rocky. As for no storms, the West coast averages fewer than 5 thunderstorms a year, so many years will have none. The Mediterranean probably gets more, but a significant amount of Mediterranean climates get hardly any. And most places with these climates average no snow in year or maybe 1-2 days. Sure, snows can happen, but it is rare in most places with med climates.
The pure Mediterranean climate is the one from the Mediterranean Sea, and I always will mentione the climate referring to a Mediterranean city within the Mediterranean, not from the US or Chile or Australia.
It's not you buddy, it's the OP, pdw, who has said that the Med. climates are rocky and barren and they get no plants without irrigation.
As you can see, this is not true. And let's compare a photo from Rotterdam (rainy Oceanic climate) with the forest near a town close to me with a truly Csa climate:
Rotterdam Oceanic:
Mediterranean Csa;
And about the snow... I have nearby mountains which get snow a few times every year, as they're quite highly altitude mountains. I suppose that in the US you got also similar mountains with snow... California has ski resorts as far as I can see on the Internet.
My theory is most people only think only they're nice because they visit in the summer. Med climates are cool and wet with no snow in winter. Many have constant fires in the summer because of drought. Can't grow anything without using irrigation. The natural landscape is barren and rocky with plants that look like weeds growing everywhere instead of trees. The only areas that look lush are because humans are constantly pumping them with water. Sure it may be nice to visit the Spanish coast for a week in the summer when it's 18 degrees and overcast in your little village in England, but for global year-round climates, Mediterraneans have got to have one the least interesting weather patterns. For me anyways. I understand the appeal for some people, but I'd rather have weather that can support beautiful forests to explore, snow to brighten the winter days or summer thunderstorms to fall asleep to. Med climates have none of these things.
Yup. Having lived a considerable amount in Csa climates, I can safely give them a big fat F.
Junter, that pic you posted is of a place that obviously has wet winters. Of course not all places with Csa climates are barren but a lot of them are, especially the ones bordering on semi-arid or even arid status (southern California for example).
I will never be able to understand why people like rain/snow/cold. Why change perfection. My one complaint about Mediterranean climates is that they aren't warm enough. Ideal for me would be 85 degrees F every day of the year, with no precipitation.
Yup. Having lived a considerable amount in Csa climates, I can safely give them a big fat F.
Junter, that pic you posted is of a place that obviously has wet winters. Of course not all places with Csa climates are barren but a lot of them are, especially the ones bordering on semi-arid or even arid status (southern California for example).
It's not wet winters buddy, that place has wet autumns and kinda wet springs. But the winters are the 3rd least wet season. Believe me, if not, check this:
But I understand your point. Where I live, Altea, the mountains from the west and north have pine forests and some others are semi-arid with just bushes, if you go a bit south or further south the mountains are very arid. My climate is on the BSh/Csa border tho...
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I will never be able to understand why people like rain/snow/cold. Why change perfection. My one complaint about Mediterranean climates is that they aren't warm enough. Ideal for me would be 85 degrees F every day of the year, with no precipitation.
What about the Dutch tropical island of Aruba? Tell me if you like it.
Yup. Having lived a considerable amount in Csa climates, I can safely give them a big fat F.
Junter, that pic you posted is of a place that obviously has wet winters. Of course not all places with Csa climates are barren but a lot of them are, especially the ones bordering on semi-arid or even arid status (southern California for example).
Which Csa climate have you lived in? Southern California looks great except for the wildfires and Santa Ana winds.
I think Mediterranean climates are the best of both worlds, with dry warm summers and then cool winters. I love them. My rule of thumb for an "A" climate is the 15/30 rule, where the average winter highs have to be as close to 15c as possible, and the summer highs have to be as close to 30c as possible. Most Mediterranean climates are just that
Med climates might grow a good range of plants, but they pale in comparison compared to Oceanic climates at comparable latitudes. I doubt there is a Med climate that can grow as many species as my climate, simply due to my area getting more precipitation.
Dry tolerant species handle wet conditions better than moisture loving species handle dry conditions.
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