Another state like WI but warmer? (Oregon, Washington: crime, unemployment rate, stats)

[ccjarider]

Originally Posted by cubssoxfan

I know you also lived in my area of NW C(r)ook Co. in IL. How gray and wet is Oregon in comparison? See any/many road bicyclists cruising around?

I think the issue with a warmer version of Wisconsin would be how important is it to find a place as pretty and do you want a similar or different "vibe"? I can recommend Hill Country in Austin all day long, but if you seek similar greenery/lushness then it won't work. It won't work if you can't handle 95+ degrees from mid-May through mid -Sep

Hey Cusbsoxfan - I see Blaggo got his just rewards!

Re: Oregon biking - Yea bike commuting is big time here.
Plus it seems at least half the male population rides mountain bikes on weekends. If you see a group of guys standing around a computer at work, chances are they are looking at either a trail map of a $6000 bike.

Re; weather: Really sunny today, not a cloud in the sky. To me,upper midwest, (WI and IL) are extremely gray in winter too so I do not see much difference. Perhaps a bit more moisture but it comes in the form of drizzle and the grass stays green in winter. It beats looking ar dirty, grey snow or icy sleet on the driveway.

[43north87west]

Originally Posted by adamnlisa

We live in a great community outside of Green Bay, and while it's nice, I'm already dreading winter Is there another state that's like WI in that it has lakes, greenery, hunting, but doesn't have such dramatic weather??

Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pacific Northwest.

[sholomar]

southern missouri, but it gets hot and humid in the summer.. can be in the upper 90's for long stretches. I'd say eastern Tennessee, West Virgina, and the Carolinas.

It's very cold here, but generally more sunny then WI typically, and the snow does not melt which makes it pretty. It will melt just 50 miles south in Sioux Falls though. Has to do with location on the 'coteau des prairies' I will never get used to the change in temps from eastern WI to here. I dislike extreme cold. I prefer 20's to 30's with lots of snow that then melts, with warmups into the 40's to 50's.

Stay along lake michigan in SE WI to avoid the more 'extreme' cold of temps under zero. Go to the Michigan side of the state to have it even warmer, and if you like lake effect snow.

[west336]

Michigan or New York, maybe?

You'll be hard-pressed to find "real" lakes too far outside the Northern U.S. states West of Minnesota......Austin, TX, for instance, has fake lakes (dams and reservoirs), and very few of them to boot.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by 43north87west

Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pacific Northwest.

The southeast does not have naturally occurring lakes.

[sholomar]

most naturally occurring lakes come from glaciation so you're not going to find the 10,000 lakes style setup down in the warm climates. There's always the ocean.... I've never even conceived of driving around on the little slivers of islands that surround the mainland near oceans, like cape hatteras .. I'd never get tired of doing that.

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Climate

Cape Hatteras displays a humid subtropical climate (Köppen Cfa), with mild winters, and very warm and humid summers. Its location, jutting out into the Atlantic, helps moderate conditions throughout the year, produces small diurnal temperature ranges. The warmest days in July and August average 86 °F (30 °C), and there are only 6 days per summer above 90 °F (32 °C).[2] The median freeze dates are March 16 and December 7. [2] Snowfall is observed occasionally and most years do not see any accumulation. [2] Rainfall is well-distributed throughout the years but is greatest in the latter half of summer, when hurricanes or their remnants can pass through."

[Stone1]

I think East Tennessee may be the fit. It has a lower cost of living, milder climate but you may see a little snow so you still get the change of seasons. The wife and I have been looking as we like a lot about WI and have lived here most of our life so we want something close in looks but milder in climate and lower in taxes. East TN seems to be the good fit, mainly Chattanooga to Knoxville.

[601halfdozen0theother]

Eastern Oklahoma and Western Arkansas are green and beautiful with lots of lakes. Take a look especially at NE OK and NW AR. They'd be great if you can stand living among the dominance of wackadoodle Christianity.

[johnnybgood1999]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

The southeast does not have naturally occurring lakes.

Not true. We have an impressive number of naturally occuring lakes in VA: 2 of them! Seriously though, if you're open to rivers and streams we have plenty of those. I like nothing more than canoeing down a blue, clear, and rocky stream. My friends and I will catch Trout and Smallmouth then grill them on boulders in the middle of the river. It is too hot here for my personal taste, but that's when I take a dip in the river or go up a couple thousand feet. Many times you can find temps in the 70's on mountaintops when it's in the 90's in the valley.

[adamnlisa]

Seems like the overwhelming majority suggest NC or TN. Now I'll have to work on my husband