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Old 07-28-2012, 05:54 AM
 
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I think it's all part of the protection thing. They are insecure and fear for their jobs. They are afraid someone competent will be hired, and take their jobs. So they put a lot between you and them, including not being available.

That's why they are secretive too. I've seen employees do that too, so no one really knows what they are doing.
I think that is a little paranoid. This may be the case in a few situations, but I don't believe it is the vast majority.

First, when I hire someone, I would love to hire someone who has the capability of eventually replacing me. Quite frankly someone NEEDS to be able to fill my shoes when I move on to another position. I am always looking at my next replacement-- its called succession planning.

Second, hiring is a super tiny component of my goals, work, etc. I may be in the office but in meetings, conference calls, working on a deadline, etc. Honestly, I am just not going to field questions from job applicants.

Interviewing and reviewing resumes is a very small fraction of what I need to do. It is important sure, but not as if for the two jobs I have open right now I am hurting to get candidates. Maybe if it were-- I would have more time dedicated to just that task.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:05 AM
 
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The "in" thing now is where jobs that were always considered menial are now demanding resumes and tux suits. Requiring resumes for menial jobs is really stupid because that leaves unexperienced young people that NOTHING TO PUT ON a resume forced out. What employers have done is essentially forced out millions of young people from entering the workforce.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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The "in" thing now is where jobs that were always considered menial are now demanding resumes and tux suits. Requiring resumes for menial jobs is really stupid because that leaves unexperienced young people that NOTHING TO PUT ON a resume forced out. What employers have done is essentially forced out millions of young people from entering the workforce.
That's not true.

If you're fresh out of school, you can list in your resume your accomplishments and skills.

For example, did you win any scholarships? Were you a part of any clubs? Did you win any awards? Did you have a good GPA? Do you have a Diploma or Degree? Did you attend a top high school or a top college? What skills relevant to the position did you learn in school?

You can even go above and beyond and create your own portfolio and business cards. Most people DO NOT create their own a portfolio and business cards for job searches (especially for the jobs you're applying for), so they'll help you stand out above the rest as a very professional candidate. It'll also give the employer a visual idea of how good your work quality and ethic truly is (I.E., include work samples relevant to the job you're applying for), and they'll see that you do have the potential to be a great worker they don't want to pass up. I would also dress up in a nice business suit and present your portfolio to them as if you were already an employee and giving them a real presentation about a business strategy in their company (speak loud, clearly, articulately, make eye contact, stand up, etc.). You can create and bring two portfolio to the interview, one for them to look through while you're presenting it and one for yourself.

I understand how hard it is for everyone looking for work, especially you with your disability. Doing the above things may still not lead to any prospects yet, but it still doesn't hurt to utilize every possible option you have so they can't come up with any ol' excuse not to hire you. Doing the above will seem especially impressive from someone of your age, as they'll see you as defying the "young kids are all lazy and entiteld and don't want to work hard" stereotype.

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Old 07-28-2012, 09:55 AM
 
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I dropped out of high school and got a ged so I don't have any history of clubs. I used to get honor rolls every year in grade school. The main thing they are expecting is work experience. Legal work history which I have very little of except for seasonal work. In my opinion there is no justification to what they are expecting. I also have another problem on my hands which is discrimination. If I disclose my disability and they have unrealistic assumptions about said disability they will choose someone else over me. But if I don't tell them and they find out later they will do whatever it takes to get me to quit voluntarily, because firing me would be a violation of the ADA. I am also trying to get off of SSI because it's not enough to live on and I could make triple what I get working minimum wage.
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:12 AM
 
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The "in" thing now is where jobs that were always considered menial are now demanding resumes and tux suits. Requiring resumes for menial jobs is really stupid because that leaves unexperienced young people that NOTHING TO PUT ON a resume forced out. What employers have done is essentially forced out millions of young people from entering the workforce.
That's why I had to embellish my resume a little bit to "fill it up." It was looking empty when I graduated from college, but I had to create the illusion that had so much going for me as an applicant. I didn't lie on my resume, but I definitely try my damnedest to make it look more attractive.
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:14 AM
 
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I had my interview today, I will not disclose where, but so far I think I might get this job. I'm not getting my hopes up though, but the store manager was already talking about promotion opportunities for me based on my background, so...I hope that's a good sign! I have to wait till Monday to see if he actually calls. He called me for an interview...that's rare nowadays...so I see that as a good sign.
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Old 07-29-2012, 02:40 AM
 
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It used to be you knew at the end of the interview if you got the job. Heck if you got an interview you had the job
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Old 07-29-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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It used to be you knew at the end of the interview if you got the job. Heck if you got an interview you had the job
Yeah I don't want to get my hopes up, but I feel somewhat confident afterwards. Usually I always feel like I did something wrong, but there was already talk about probable promotion in the future. Also, the store manager told me they had to talk to the district manager. I'm not sure why for a store associate job. Usually after you talk to the head person in charge of the store, you either knew or you didn't know.
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Old 07-29-2012, 03:00 PM
 
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Yeah I don't want to get my hopes up, but I feel somewhat confident afterwards. Usually I always feel like I did something wrong, but there was already talk about probable promotion in the future. Also, the store manager told me they had to talk to the district manager. I'm not sure why for a store associate job. Usually after you talk to the head person in charge of the store, you either knew or you didn't know.
DM's offices sometimes limit total store payroll hours, so it could be he needs it eased to actually fill the position. It is usually fluid, based on recent sales volume.
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Old 07-29-2012, 03:11 PM
 
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DM's offices sometimes limit total store payroll hours, so it could be he needs it eased to actually fill the position. It is usually fluid, based on recent sales volume.
I hope that's what it is. I just hope I got it. Most of my interviews never included the DM unless it was a supervisory position.
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