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Old 02-04-2014, 07:58 PM
 
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The most common degree would be a degree related to business. For example, there would be more business degrees than engineering or English in a corporate headquartered office.

I'll say this. Almost every friend I have from college with a business degree works for a corporation in a job related to business (consulting, accounting, marketing, etc.)

You also said you have just a hs diploma. You can't work in that great of a corporate office. I'm not talking a Bank of America branch bank, I'm talking Bank of America corporate headquarters in a high rise downtown with real jobs.
So you were wrong, a business degree is not required. I have worked at corporate for over a decade. I have never worked at a branch bank or retail location. In a previous job, I could see the CEO/COO in a private company with thousands of employees. I am currently working at one of the 20 largest companies in the country.

A business degree is not required. You will find many people able to get jobs without a business degree. Corporate headquarters will also have IT for back office work.

What's this consulting degree? I haven't come across one of those guys at corporate, yet.

Here are a few jobs from BOA in Charlotte, NC(corporate headquarters).

http://careers.bankofamerica.com/job...s-charlotte-nc

http://careers.bankofamerica.com/job...data-developer

http://careers.bankofamerica.com/job...t-charlotte-nc

http://careers.bankofamerica.com/job...utions-analyst

http://careers.bankofamerica.com/job...ies:-charlotte

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Old 02-04-2014, 08:12 PM
 
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So you were wrong, a business degree is not required. I have worked at corporate for over a decade. I have never worked at a branch bank or retail location. In a previous job, I could see the CEO/COO in a private company with thousands of employees. I am currently working at one of the 20 largest companies in the country.

A business degree is not required. You will find many people able to get jobs without a business degree. Corporate headquarters will also have IT for back office work.

What's this consulting degree? I haven't come across one of those guys at corporate, yet.

Here are a few jobs from BOA in Charlotte, NC(corporate headquarters).

[url=http://careers.bankofamerica.com/job.aspx?n=11343&c=United%20States&r=us&t=senior-operations-manager-global-fixed-income-operations-charlotte-nc]Bank Of America Job - Senior Operations Manager - Global Fixed Income Operations - Charlotte NC , Charlotte, NC, United States[/url]

[url=http://careers.bankofamerica.com/job.aspx?n=10748&c=United%20States&r=us&t=speciali st-securities-operations-analyst-charlotte-nc]Bank Of America Job - Specialist - Securities - Operations Analyst - Charlotte, NC , Charlotte, NC, United States[/url]

[url=http://careers.bankofamerica.com/job.aspx?n=11364&c=United%20States&r=us&t=operatio ns-manager-securities:-charlotte]Bank Of America Job - Operations Manager - Securities: Charlotte , Charlotte, NC, United States[/url]
1. I never said a business degree was required. I was quite clear about that on post #59.

2. I never said anything about a "consulting degree." This was also clear on post #59. The post was only a few sentence long. Surely you can handle a post that short? Go back and do your homework and report back to me.
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:42 PM
 
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1. I never said a business degree was required. I was quite clear about that on post #59.
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Look at any job posting on a corporate headquarters website and a majority of them will require a degree that is business related. And my post specifically said "normally" requires business degrees.

Hmm...
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:48 PM
 
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Hmm...
So how did you confuse "normally" or "majority" with "required"?
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:09 PM
 
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Brother. It might be time to grow up.

I realize you're asking questions to gain knowledge, but you might want to realize that the preconceived notions you've walked in with might be wrong.

You now have multiple people with real life experience, compared to your none, that are pointing this out. Accept it, and move on.

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Old 02-04-2014, 10:02 PM
 
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The most common degree would be a degree related to business. For example, there would be more business degrees than engineering or English in a corporate headquartered office.

I'll say this. Almost every friend I have from college with a business degree works for a corporation in a job related to business (consulting, accounting, marketing, etc.)

You also said you have just a hs diploma. You can't work in that great of a corporate office. I'm not talking a Bank of America branch bank, I'm talking Bank of America corporate headquarters in a high rise downtown with real jobs.
I have a GED and work at a Corporate HQ at a Fortune 500 (100, actually) company. We have several people in Marketing, Sales, and Finance who only have High School diplomas. Often, we hire someone with a High School diploma and business experience over a fresh grad with a BA.

And the majority of people do not have "business" degrees. Many positions require a Bachelors, but not a specific major. A lot of people have communications, english, poli sci, etc. For people with Master's degrees though, yes, they generally have an MBA

Have you ever worked Corporate? These types of things vary greatly from company to company and there are no hard and fast rules.
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Old 02-04-2014, 10:18 PM
 
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So how did you confuse "normally" or "majority" with "required"?
If your preconceived ideas are working for you, then you can ignore people with 10-20 years more experience than you. Good luck in the corporate world.
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Old 02-04-2014, 11:17 PM
 
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I've worked at a Fortune 100 company for 10 years. I'm a hiring manager. Entry level Marketing/Accounting is $35k-40k.

Those pay websites and surveys are always hyper-inflated numbers.

Please learn the difference between your and you're if you want to get hired. That's something I actually use to cull applicants during the screening process.

These are much more realistic numbers. I used to work in HR, so I knew what everyone actually earned. For awhile I did temp work so I saw the salaries at a number of different companies, and this was in an expensive area of the country. I agree that those websites tend to have inflated numbers, and often people inflate their own salaries. I would warn someone looking for entry level work not to get too attached to a number, they may be in for serious disappointment.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:59 AM
 
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Actually, the past 2 companies I have worked with have an unwritten rule that you do not get hired back if you leave. So don't ever bank on that.
Rules are made to broken. Apple said that Jobs was finished with the company in 85. That was until they needed him a decade later. All of a sudden, the animosity that the board showed him suddenly went away.

As for starting salary, not all sectors, jobs or applicants are created equally. A finance major from Stanford going into IB with GS or consulting with MBB isn't going to get paid the same as a Devry institute grad supervising a section of a local corporate call center. The same goes for promotions, if they think you have potential and they are a profitable company they may send you back for an MBA which will probably garner you a big raise.

I will say one thing, at least in Big corporate law firms, it is a great deal of politics. Yes you have to have a baseline of competence but once you have that to make partner you have to have serious people skills or just be so good at your job they can't afford to lose you. I assume the rest of the corporate world is the same but I'm not sure.
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Old 02-06-2014, 10:04 AM
 
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I have a question:

Most people ITT state that to advance you have to leave your company. I looked at the senior executives in my company and many of them are lifers with the firm. In a company like that (which is a F50 firm and an industry leader in salary), would it make sense to jump around?
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