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Old 02-25-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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At least with an more mature job seeker you don't have to worry about them jumping ship when a higher better offer comes along in a year or two
Yeah, people who take higher and better offers are suckers.
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Old 02-25-2015, 02:36 PM
 
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Recently the organization I work for has been bringing lots of people in for job interviews. I see them sitting in their suits waiting in the lobby and so many of them recently seem so old. I hear from HR that many of the applicants who have come in are 55-65 years old and have been out of work for a long time. Many just seem so old and I wonder if they will ever work again in a professional full time job.

The hiring managers have not been to encouraging for these long term unemployed older men, so far none of them are being hired. Instead we are hiring people in their prime years (their 30s). There seems to be a preference for applicants in their 30s. Young enough to be full of energy and drive, but mature enough to understand business and how to behave in the office.

When I look at these sad older men with their 20 year old suit coats sitting in the lobby waiting to be rejected, my mind goes back to the 1990s, when they were likely very marketable and on top of their game. Did they ever realize it would come to this 20 years later?
Probably not....But because you now do, you are ahead of the game...Make the best business/career choices that you can....so you are not one of them years from now! I appreciate your empathy.
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Old 02-25-2015, 05:51 PM
 
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Well if I had a company which I don't I would hire a sprinkle of this and a sprinkle of that. A nice variety, an onion scented breathed receptionist of obese proportions and a irritating yet motherly accent, in her late 50's. A young salesman with a freckled faced demeanor and bright eyed sparkle. An over coated old man who drinks his coffee black and won;t speak to anyone till 10am after he wakes up a bit. Also a gay man with red colored framed glasses who acts 20 years his junior and we all think of him as 36 even though he is 55. He entertains us with stories from his design business he has on the side.
Ah nice vision.
post of the day, yessiree
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Old 02-25-2015, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Ugh. Well, all you can do is hold onto that job now that you have it, because soon you'll be the one in your twenty year overcoat, sadly sitting in the waiting room, with nobody having any intention of hiring you.
Here is how it works.
A company lays off 100 people. 50 are under 40 fifty are over 39. They spread it out so that they don't get sued. The 50 under 40 find new jobs relatively quickly. Those over 39 find jobs slowly. Those over 49 don't find jobs at all.
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Old 02-25-2015, 06:05 PM
 
Location: midtown mile area, Atlanta GA
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If they've worked in a good office job for decades, why don't they have enough $$ saved to retire already?
Whatever they saved, they have probably used to live off of after unemployment ran out since most do not qualify age wise for social security and retirement withdrawals.
Some lose everything they have, winding up homeless or moving in with their kids. Some commit suicide (the CDC has stats showing the rise).
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Old 02-25-2015, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Not all older workers are so sad, but this group is and the hiring managers at my employer agree.
Seems you fit right in with your company with this bigoted statement coming from you:
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When I look at these sad older men with their 20 year old suit coats sitting in the lobby waiting to be rejected, my mind goes back to the 1990s, when they were likely very marketable and on top of their game.
Maybe you will get a taste of what it is like in about 20 years. Just remember in the law of averages often what goes around, comes around.
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Old 02-25-2015, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Totally agreed older workers who are down on their luck can also depress everyone else. The situation is depressing.

The twenty year old coats aren't doing them any favors.
More stereotyping of older workers. You should be ashamed of yourself. Sounds like you and the OP should have an older workers bashing party. Compassionate humans do not make fun of people down on their luck but I see why you would know nothing about that.

Too bad you can't ask any of my new co-workers if I am depressing anyone. Everyone from the manager and supervisor on down they are thrilled to have me. I might add that I am at the top of my game turning 60 in a few weeks.

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Old 02-25-2015, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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If they've worked in a good office job for decades, why don't they have enough $$ saved to retire already?
You can't be that ignorant, or are you?

Divorce, downturn in the economy, and very expensive health issues are 3 off the top. And as poster midtown mile girl accurately pointed out unemployment is temporary, not enough to live on, and it is too early to collect SS benefits.

I can't believe I had to spell that out for anyone.

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Old 02-25-2015, 07:14 PM
 
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It goes without saying that your primary earning years are just those 20 years or so, between 25 and 45. Before that, you should be busy preparing yourself for a glorious 20 year career.

In those 20 years, you should earn as much as you can, as expand your career as much as possible. The goal is to be able to generate passive income by the time you reach 50.
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Old 02-25-2015, 07:19 PM
 
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I am 39 years old, at the end of my core years in the world of employment. Thanks for asking though!
38 is the age where my husband figured out it was over. We started our own business soon after that..... best thing we ever did.
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