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OP, unless HR is being very unprofessional and telling you confidential information about the applicants, there is no way you would know these older applicants are unemployed. They may well be employed and just looking for a different job. Just because they are older, doesn't mean they've stopped looking for new opportunities.
And if your HR department is blabbing confidential applicant info, just remember those that gossip with you will also gossip about you. If HR is doing this, they are not professional AT ALL.
Lastly, OP in 20 years you will be one of those older workers. Have a little compassion. Your time will come, sooner than you think.
Didn't you see the title of my original post about the sad unemployed older folks made me sad?
Yes, the recruiters and hiring managers told everyone who would listen that they did not hire the older applicants because they seemed tired and sad.
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OP, unless HR is being very unprofessional and telling you confidential information about the applicants, there is no way you would know these older applicants are unemployed. They may well be employed and just looking for a different job. Just because they are older, doesn't mean they've stopped looking for new opportunities.
And if your HR department is blabbing confidential applicant info, just remember those that gossip with you will also gossip about you. If HR is doing this, they are not professional AT ALL.
Lastly, OP in 20 years you will be one of those older workers. Have a little compassion. Your time will come, sooner than you think.
Where I work the "older" employees work circles around the "younger" ones. I mean, seriously they do.
They might but stats say that if you are over 50 it will take you a lot long to get a new job after a layoff, so the young hotshots who make hiring decisions at many companies disagree with you.
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They might but stats say that if you are over 50 it will take you a lot long to get a new job after a layoff, so the young hotshots who make hiring decisions at many companies disagree with you.
Of course it will take longer. There are fewer higher level and higher paying positions than lower ones to be hired into.
And most hiring decisions in most places aren't made by "young hotshots".
Didn't you see the title of my original post about the sad unemployed older folks made me sad?
Yes, the recruiters and hiring managers told everyone who would listen that they did not hire the older applicants because they seemed tired and sad.
Then back to my original question. If they have no intentions of hiring older applicants why are they even bothering to interview them?
You may not realize it but for most older unemployed people, getting an actual interview these days can be difficult. Even a phone interview is sometimes hard to come by.
Best you stop digging, this entire thing seems more of a figment of your imagination than anything else.
I feel like the OP accidentally opened the door to Oklahoma in 1932. OP, have you been reading The Grapes of Wrath by chance? Or perhaps you work at your local Union Gospel Mission? Your imagery is...vivid...to say the least.
When I look at these sad older men with their 20 year old suit coats sitting in the lobby waiting to be rejected, my mind goes back to the 1990s, when they were likely very marketable and on top of their game. Did they ever realize it would come to this 20 years later?
While we sad old men appreciate your sentiments, we don't want or need your--or anyone's--pity. We just need a fair shot at the open positions. If you want to see where I can go to help your firm, just look at where I've been. In my case--and many others'--past performance IS an indicator of future performance.
I think OP is sympathetic, just the mellow dramatic way some of it was written opened the door to armchair comedians.
But it's scary out there for over 50's...
Okay, check this out! True story!!!...
My best friend's husband who's been a programmer for years, almost got sacked a little over ago due to the fact that the project he had been working on for a few years (I believe his company works on a lot of government contracts so it's been project by project) was coming to an end. A few months prior to that, a new supervisor came into his group who was younger and seemed very "distant" and didn't care how long the employees had been with the company. So my friend's husband was getting concerned because he was no longer getting any positive feedback in fact no feedback at all, pretty much ignored and he started seeing people, usually older, being let go when their projects ended. In the meantime, the new supervisor brought in some fresh blood and of course they were younger.
Anyway, to make a long story short, he had been very stressed out and depressed by what he saw happening, and he started getting short of breath with weird heartbeats so he went to see his doc who ordered some blood work and a stress test, and guess what? He went straight to the hospital for a heart bypass! It was in the area of the heart that was very dangerous known as "the widow maker!"
So this happened about 2 weeks shy of when his project was about to end, and it was pretty clear to him that, it would most likely be the end of his job. However... he took his medical leave and when he went back to work, he ended up being transferred to another department away from the young cold supervisor and now he's doing fine with challenging work and his coworkers and new supervisor really appreciates him!
My friend, (his wife) said it's really strange how almost losing his life most likely saved his job. Crazy huh??
A lot of people in their 50's got laid off post recession. It's crazy because they're not old enough to retire and many still have mortgages and other bills to pay. Plus there is a huge discrimination against older workers
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