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Old 03-25-2016, 09:25 PM
 
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The passenger agrees to a cleaning service charge if a mess is made in the car. It doesn't have to be vomit.

A service charge is not a fine. Fighting something is easy. Winning is not as easy.

You care because you made it a point to post about it. That's why we're having this discussion.
Maybe you missed this part. Read below. Several hundred dollars is a fine not a service charge.

And my comments in regards to caring, had to do with someone throwing up in your car. The driver has to clean it up and deal with the stench and the car will never be quite the same. My point was who cares that the culprit is fined, you're left with a messy car.



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I heard from an Uber driver and rider that if somebody pukes in your car, they're fined several hundred $$. I don't know if it's still worth it today, but back around 2014, he made it sound like it was enough to cover you for the whole day of missing out on fares, and the cleaning of the car.
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Old 03-26-2016, 01:55 AM
 
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Maybe you missed this part. Read below. Several hundred dollars is a fine not a service charge.

And my comments in regards to caring, had to do with someone throwing up in your car. The driver has to clean it up and deal with the stench and the car will never be quite the same. My point was who cares that the culprit is fined, you're left with a messy car.
Maybe you missed this part. Read Below. This poster corrected the previous one.

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It's not a fine and no court is needed. It's a service charge.
It's a cleaning service fee.

The poster you quoted was referring to your statement about the service fee. So when you respond and ask who cares... the context is the service fee. He/She didn't say anything about vomit. Just pointing out why there's confusion.
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Old 03-26-2016, 03:18 PM
 
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LOL...who cares? Now your car smells of vomit, and while you can get rid of the smell if you have cloth seats they're stained and the same thing if they get your car ceiling. And the lucky driver gets to clean out the car.

You really think some drunk 20 something year old kid who has little money is going to pony up several hundred dollars in fines?:smack.

I don't even see how that would hold up in court.
As far as the amount goes (and again, this is from somebody I talked to who was riding Uber and driving for them for years), I didn't remember the actual amount. Suffice to say, if somebody barfs in your car, you're paid enough to cover the cost of cleaning, as well as the rest of the day's worth of fares you'd be making, and then some (since you'll be out the whole day just getting that mess cleaned up)




Paying this charge. If such a 20-yo punk doesn't have the money to pay for this charge, why would they have the money to ride in the first place? What's to stop such a 20-yo punk from riding, and then when he reaches his destination, from bolting from the vehicle and dashing off without paying?
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Old 03-26-2016, 03:21 PM
 
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LOL, no one has barfed in his car yet. The two Uber drivers who were attacked in CA and FL, the first was a six figure executive the second one in was a doctor.

Money doesn't buy class.
Indeed. There was also a (former) Taco Bell VP who was drunk and attacked his Uber driver for no good reason. If somebody wanted to pull a gun on you while you're driving for Uber and kill you, there really isn't much you can do about that either. This is the sort of risk that you need to deal with in such a job where you interact with the public directly.


Fired Taco Bell Exec in Uber Attack Suing Driver for $5 Million - NBC News
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Old 03-26-2016, 08:59 PM
 
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Maybe you missed this part. Read Below. This poster corrected the previous one.



It's a cleaning service fee.

The poster you quoted was referring to your statement about the service fee. So when you respond and ask who cares... the context is the service fee. He/She didn't say anything about vomit. Just pointing out why there's confusion.
Call it whatever you like, if it is a few hundred dollars, it's a lot of money.

I suppose we could call a speeding ticket and driving too fast fee.

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As far as the amount goes (and again, this is from somebody I talked to who was riding Uber and driving for them for years), I didn't remember the actual amount. Suffice to say, if somebody barfs in your car, you're paid enough to cover the cost of cleaning, as well as the rest of the day's worth of fares you'd be making, and then some (since you'll be out the whole day just getting that mess cleaned up)




Paying this charge. If such a 20-yo punk doesn't have the money to pay for this charge, why would they have the money to ride in the first place? What's to stop such a 20-yo punk from riding, and then when he reaches his destination, from bolting from the vehicle and dashing off without paying?
Come on, there is a big difference in paying $15 for an Uber ride and $300 for a cleaning fee/fine if they barf in the car. And with Uber don't you prepay? They don't take cash, so it's not like a cab where someone can try and bolt out of the backseat. The Uber driver has your information already.

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Indeed. There was also a (former) Taco Bell VP who was drunk and attacked his Uber driver for no good reason. If somebody wanted to pull a gun on you while you're driving for Uber and kill you, there really isn't much you can do about that either. This is the sort of risk that you need to deal with in such a job where you interact with the public directly.


Fired Taco Bell Exec in Uber Attack Suing Driver for $5 Million - NBC News
That's one of the ones I mentioned. He was here in CA, and the other was a doctor in FL.

So to the poster who thinks picking up higher end clients, drunks are drunks, and the worst ones are the ones under 30.
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Old 03-27-2016, 07:14 AM
 
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No thanks.. you're a taxi driver without any of the benefits and protection as a real taxi driver.
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Old 03-27-2016, 11:23 AM
 
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No thanks.. you're a taxi driver without any of the benefits and protection as a real taxi driver.
Exactly, and a cab has a plastic guard between you and the passenger, notice it's always Uber drivers getting bashed in the back of the head by drunk people.

And this cleaning fee/fine is just laughable. Good luck collecting that several hundred dollars from the drunk who did it, and you get to clean you car after some strange puked in it.....sounds great!

The car insurance issue is also sketchy, I highly doubt that your personal car insurance is going to cover you when you're using a car as a cab. You would have to let them know and there go your rates.
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Old 03-27-2016, 01:34 PM
 
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No thanks.. you're a taxi driver without any of the benefits and protection as a real taxi driver.
There needs to be a middle ground. Taxi Medallions can be very difficult to get. OTOH, Uber pretty much just exploits its drivers, they have to bring their own vehicles, maintain it on their own dime, pay their own insurance, paying what ends up being MW or less after factoring all those expenses, treating them like contractors, with no benefits.




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Come on, there is a big difference in paying $15 for an Uber ride and $300 for a cleaning fee/fine if they barf in the car. And with Uber don't you prepay? They don't take cash, so it's not like a cab where someone can try and bolt out of the backseat. The Uber driver has your information already.
If somebody who does Uber can chime in, great. Otherwise, if they have that guy's info already, then they can surely use the same thing to initiate a puking payment. While the driver is there, neg-him, so other drivers know this guy is a puker, and worst yet, doesn't pay up to compensate for such damages.
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Old 03-28-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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On Saturday we received a package from Amazon that we ordered the day before, and were surprised at how quickly it came. The driver was a young woman in a plain, ordinary car. I did some research and discovered Amazon Flex, they just started it here and intend to expand soon. Drivers are paid $18-25 hour to use their own cars to deliver packages, and are able to choose the area to work in close to home. Seems a lot safer than Uber, and no human contact, just drop on the porch, ring the bell and go.
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Old 03-28-2016, 11:15 AM
 
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And this cleaning fee/fine is just laughable. Good luck collecting that several hundred dollars from the drunk who did it, and you get to clean you car after some strange puked in it.....sounds great!
They already have the passenger's credit card info and his agreement to the contract terms of service which authorizes the cleaning fee. It's just like when you rent a car and you are agreeing in the contract to be held responsible for damages including a cleaning fee if car is returned excessively dirty. The passenger will not be asked to pay a cleaning fee. His card will just be charged for it. The passenger can try to dispute the charges whereupon Uber will provide the cc company the contract showing the terms to which the passenger agreed.
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