Are you more likely to get raises or promotions if the boss thinks you're more likely to leave? (employee, payments)

[workwork]

Or would it be better for him to think you'll stick around no matter what for the next couple of years? Or can you reliably expect a company to give you timely promotions and raises?

[Hemlock140]

As a boss myself, raises are based on performance alone, it makes no difference whether I think a person is likely to leave or stay forever. Their pay raises depend on an increase in their value to the organization. We don't have "cost of living" raises, nor raises because we like someone, there are strict policies. When I had a business myself, even the best employee was not indispensable. If someone wanted to leave, I'd wish them well, not offer them more money to stay.

[TexasLawyer2000]

Yes. If you're the top performer in your department and you're likely to leave for better opportunities, you're more likely to get raises and/or promotions.

[North Beach Person]

Define "timely promotions". Companies don't create openings, nor have they ever, just because it's "time" for someone to be promoted.

[joe from dayton]

We are not going to give you a raise or promote you because you think it is time to be promoted. There has to be a supervisory vacancy for someone to get promoted into. If you do a good job, you may get a higher raise than folks who don't work as hard, but we are not going to come up with money to convince you to stay. If you want to leave, we will wish you good luck and say nice things about you.

[mrskay662000]

Where I work, they didn't used to promote unqualified folks. They'd tell you to leave and don't let the door hit you on the way out. And you couldn't ever return. But at that time, they were the only game in town. Now there's significant and stiff competition from a nearby a brother location.

So the competition who wants the same people, with the same skill set, who treat their people far better; is currently resulting in promotions for unqualified folks just to keep employees around longer than 6 months.

FYI: It's not working. Folks are taking the quick promo/raise and bouncing. Though I have to selfishly admit that I'm considering hitting them up for student loan lump sum payments as a "retention" aid.

Strike while the iron is hot!

[43north87west]

Originally Posted by workwork

Or would it be better for him to think you'll stick around no matter what for the next couple of years? Or can you reliably expect a company to give you timely promotions and raises?

Depends on what you do, whether it's worth more, and whether the boss needs you at that time.

Speaking for myself, I have handled that differently depending on a lot of factors. In some cases people are underpaid and they are worth saving. In other cases... enjoy the new job.

[Tominftl]

If employers would take care of their "good people" maybe they wouldn't want to leave in the first place. Seems to me that some employers are penny wise and pound foolish.

[TestEngr]

I've worked for myself as an independent contractor for 15 years, so I just go into companies to accomplish things and I am done. But in my experience in past as an employee and watching in many other companies what goes on is that most bosses do not look at performance at all, some might, but many don't. The ones that do are a treasure. Unfortunately many bosses are looking for how you can make them look good, this is a sad fact of life. Many don't care about you accomplishing things, your loyalty, what they care about their own promotion to the next rung on the ladder as it were and how you can fit into that.

[charlygal]

Originally Posted by Tominftl

If employers would take care of their "good people" maybe they wouldn't want to leave in the first place. Seems to me that some employers are penny wise and pound foolish.

The employee may think of themselves as "good people" but the employer may see it differently.