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We don't need a huge amount of manufacturing plants. We just need enough that we can function on our own, and that a hostile country could threaten a manufacturing embargo against us to try and bring us down.
The same thing for farming. Right now, if we got into real trouble with foreign issues, we have three days before all our shelves would be empty and anarchy would ensue. Once we are self-efficient, the globalists, whether the multinational corporations or the tyrants at the UN, can no longer control us.
What the globalists are HOPING for is that we can become a service-based economy so that wages are low and so that we are so dependent on foreign imports for our products and food that they can just blockade us and bring us down without even having to get onto our shores. And yes, that is a possibility, as Obummer has decimated our military.
I think the damage is so extensive than it will take more than 4-8 years to fix it all. And who knows you might have another Obummer type president by then.
I didn't say manufacturing plants. I said infrastructure spending. Manufacturing plants are unlikely to come back NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT because companies can't make profits on them when the employees expect to be paid an American living wage. They will only come back when they are run by robots, not humans, and the jobs they will create with be a minimal number of high-tech positions. With Congress' support, presidents can create jobs but it's far less likely they will be in manufacturing. The costs of the products manufactured would be higher than American consumers are willing to pay. Donald Trump can SAY anything. What he ends up doing is likely to be far different than his campaign promises.
Right that's why Trump got so much of the rural vote. The rural areas are clinging on hard to the idea that old-tyme jobs like coal mining and manufacturing will return to these areas.
Like you mentioned, the manufacturing jobs that will return won't be the menial type of the past where a person can walk in the door and make $40 an hour. They will need people with engineering or computer science degrees.
But really, it's also the American consumer themselves who are partly responsible for all of this. They want to see the local Wallyworld filled with ultra-cheap products. They aren't willing to pay a tad more for an American made product.
Right that's why Trump got so much of the rural vote. The rural areas are clinging on hard to the idea that old-tyme jobs like coal mining and manufacturing will return to these areas.
Like you mentioned, the manufacturing jobs that will return won't be the menial type of the past where a person can walk in the door and make $40 an hour. They will need people with engineering or computer science degrees.
But really, it's also the American consumer themselves who are partly responsible for all of this. They want to see the local Wallyworld filled with ultra-cheap products. They aren't willing to pay a tad more for an American made product.
US is #2 in manufacturing around the world. We have about 1/4th the population that China has, and around 10% of the US work force works in manufacturing. It's a miracle that we produce as much as we do. In fact, based on output, the US manufacturing sector has never been larger.
In my opinion, it's not about money. If anyone want's to know why we don't manufacture more, it's more about the stuff mentioned above. The only way to expand US manufacturing now is via automation, training, investment and so forth. It's not as simple as hiring people and having them do busy work anymore.
I didn't say manufacturing plants. I said infrastructure spending. Manufacturing plants are unlikely to come back NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT because companies can't make profits on them when the employees expect to be paid an American living wage. They will only come back when they are run by robots, not humans, and the jobs they will create with be a minimal number of high-tech positions. With Congress' support, presidents can create jobs but it's far less likely they will be in manufacturing. The costs of the products manufactured would be higher than American consumers are willing to pay. Donald Trump can SAY anything. What he ends up doing is likely to be far different than his campaign promises.
Well the topic was manufacturing. What does Congress's alleged refusal to give BO more money have to do with Trump's wish for more American manufacturing?
I think the damage is so extensive than it will take more than 4-8 years to fix it all. And who knows you might have another Obummer type president by then.
If Trump does it right, this is a generational change as much as Reagan's or FDR's.
Look at the rest of the "western" world this is not a US phenomenon. Australia after 110 years will very soon cease to make passenger automobiles. New Zealand without a large scale manufacturing base or exportable natural resources other than sheep and fish has property values at speculation prices thanks to the Chinese but an air force that consists of 4 transport planes. Most EU states suffer youth unemployment rates past 15%, long stretches of unemployment for even then well-educated and skilled, buckets of government loans, and infrastructure that falls apart. The UK is a crumbling mess. With oil prices staying below US$50/barrel, Canada will continue to slide on a downward trajectory.
The only places where the economy is ok is in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, southern Sweden, and Northern Italy.
Like you mentioned, the manufacturing jobs that will return won't be the menial type of the past where a person can walk in the door and make $40 an hour. They will need people with engineering or computer science degrees.
If manufacturing was like this, there would not have been a need to ship the jobs to China to take advantage of cheap labor there.
IMHO, the jobs that will return will be a mix of low-skilled, semi-skilled and mechanization requiring college degreed engineer.
The article is rambling and contradictory. I work for $15.50 an hour at an auto parts plant. That's a pretty good wage here. Not high but decent. People here will gladly work for these wages. I'm not complaining that much. Where else are we going to work? There's not much else on the jobs boards that don't require years of experience. Sure, some people quit their jobs but that happens everywhere. If they want cheap labor, they should come here. All we need to do is cut these high taxes and regulations and the jobs will come back.
I know here in Delaware the nice factory jobs full time workers that work directly for the company make very good wages and benefits, They get hired by starting through a temporary service at minimum wage and if they stay and work out can fill out application and get hired on.
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Reason: P.S. johnsmith they want $15 at 17 for flipping burgers at mcdonalds.
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