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Old 12-18-2016, 03:28 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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Well the only way that can happen is if someone allows it. No way in hell would I just continue to work for a temp agency for more than six months.
As opposed to what. Most of the companies and all the larger corporations that hire Chemists in my area play the permatemp game. Just for the heck of it I interviewed at Abbott Labs for a contract/staffing agency job and found it was the same BS. They are a churn and burn permatemp corp that rarely if ever hires people. This is one reason why I will never let anyone in my family major in science again. It is a staffing agency infested race to the bottom.

If these scumbag agencies didn't exist they would either have to really hire someone or cease doing business.
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Old 12-19-2016, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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When I lived in a small town in NC, every job I found was through a "temp" agency. They all turned into permanent jobs but the companies didn't want to go through the hassle of finding and interviewing candidates and if the employee didn't work out the company just placed a call to the agency and tomorrow they had someone else.


If it wasn't for a staffing/employment agency I wouldn't have been able to find a job at all in this small town since I was a Yankee who didn't know anybody in town.
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Old 12-19-2016, 01:08 PM
 
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When I lived in a small town in NC, every job I found was through a "temp" agency. They all turned into permanent jobs but the companies didn't want to go through the hassle of finding and interviewing candidates and if the employee didn't work out the company just placed a call to the agency and tomorrow they had someone else.


If it wasn't for a staffing/employment agency I wouldn't have been able to find a job at all in this small town since I was a Yankee who didn't know anybody in town.

I dont think most people understand how important temp agencies are today.
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Old 12-19-2016, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Ontario, NY
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I dont think most people understand how important temp agencies are today.
They are leeches, they charge the client $50 an hour, give you $15 a hour and pocket the difference. What should be allowed to happen is I form my own LLC, John Doe of Tuckerton LLC, now the client pays me directly and I pocket the $50 a hour client fee directly. No need for middlemen. The company still have the same flexibility of employing contractors and I get paid more than slave wages.


But how would employers find contractors to fill positions? Simple, a website that organizes contractors by specialty, I pay to list my name on the website, companies search the website and contact me if they need me. That's all these temp agencies do, list online ads looking for people to fill contracts they get, these staffing agencies do not have offices full of qualified people waiting to send them to clients on demand.
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:58 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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They are leeches, they charge the client $50 an hour, give you $15 a hour and pocket the difference. What should be allowed to happen is I form my own LLC, John Doe of Tuckerton LLC, now the client pays me directly and I pocket the $50 a hour client fee directly. No need for middlemen. The company still have the same flexibility of employing contractors and I get paid more than slave wages.


But how would employers find contractors to fill positions? Simple, a website that organizes contractors by specialty, I pay to list my name on the website, companies search the website and contact me if they need me. That's all these temp agencies do, list online ads looking for people to fill contracts they get, these staffing agencies do not have offices full of qualified people waiting to send them to clients on demand.
Agreed either hire an employee for a long term need or hire a contractor and pay them directly and pay them higher to compensate for the lack of job security. Otherwise you are just a sleazy bottom feeder and exploiter.

Allowing agencies to parasitize workers is bad for the worker, bad for morale, bad for my profession as a lot of the best analytical chemists have given up and left.

In my profession I've never heard anyone have anything but contempt for these agencies (other than the employers) and the discontent and poor morale among those in it is very alarming. Every time someone asks about the profession literally a dozen angry chemists respond and the source of their anger is mainly the agencies.
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Old 12-19-2016, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Texas
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In Historic NLRB Ruling, Temps Win the Right To Join Unions - Working In These Times
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Old 12-19-2016, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Ontario, NY
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Every time someone asks about the profession literally a dozen angry chemists respond and the source of their anger is mainly the agencies.
The only exception I would say is government contractors, generally the government requires government contracting staffing agencies to provide decent pay and benefits, still I've heard from a friend the profit margin is at least 35% between what they charge the government and what they pay there contractors with benefits.
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Old 01-03-2017, 06:46 PM
 
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This is what they are all about. They are basically pimps.
I thought this Kelly Girl ad was a joke that you created! Wow, this is an actual ad from 1971. Unfortunately, they have the same mentality in 2016, they just don't advertise it.
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