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I'm curious.
If minimum wage was raised by $5 (which is about 50% what it is now), what about all those who are making $15 an hour now with college degrees in entry level specialized positions? They won't get a $7.50/hour raise. They will be making the same as those in positions that do not require special skills or education. Is this fair?
I'm very open to hearing differing opinions without getting into an argument.
What do you think YOU'RE worth?
I'd like this to be an open discussion with no attacks or party-blaming (dems/reps)
In the current economy at about $9-10 an hour as minimum wage, I'd say I'm probably worth $21 an hour.. With a specialized masters and a license to practice therapy. Second year out of school.
First, minimum wage has NOT kept up with inflation. It is almost impossible to make a living on minimum wage. Let alone raise a family. You do realize at 40hrs a week at $7hr that equals $14,560 a year! Minimum wage is not meant to be earned on a long term basis. It's meant for entry level workers.
Second, if you are not making $20+ an hour with a Masters degree then I think you're in the wrong profession or at least working for the wrong company. I agree that if you have a degree in a specialized field you should be making WAY more than minimum wage! I personally don't know anyone making less than $25hr with a Masters and I think that is even on the low side. Of course it could be the state you live in. Minimum wage is also more state specific. If you are making $7 hr in Alabama, that is a different scenario than if you are in California and min wage is that low!
Lets say burger flipper's R US pays $15 an hour up from $9. Employee is making an extra $240 a week. Burger joint will surely have to raise prices to pay everyone the extra $240 a week. So landlord gets wind of the $960 a month raise and guess what.......he raises the rent $100 a week (taking $400 of that raise). He figures if he takes his family to the burger place for dinner and the price went up due to the 68% wage increase then he needs more money too!
So once the employee gets a new Iphone 10, gets some other trinkets and pays more for food/rent then are they really better off? Nope.....they are still flipping burgers and guess what, next year they will think they are worth $20 an hour....cyclical reasoning.
What happens when the owner closes the burger store because he can't cover all the expenses and since he raised prices less people are eating there? Oh wait, nobody wants to consider that while they are convincing the government to help out the little guy.
People who take orders at fast food restaurants are going to be replaced by automated service. The customer will place their own order at the front counter. Punching in orders is not some complex task, and the person who does it, can just look at pictures and doesn't even need to be literate to place the order. It's definitely not worth paying someone $15 an hour. It's scary to me that people are trying to make a career out of fast food work, and stealing jobs from students who need those jobs. 30 years ago, when you walked into a fast food restaurant, you didn't see people over 40 working there unless it was the manager.
I don't think fast food jobs are worth $15 an hour.
Well, again, an effective way to determine the value of a
service is to take it away for a time and see how it impacts
society.
I have a hunch there are many who would rather pay a living
wage if it meant they didn't have to go through the trouble of
making their own burgers, hunting for or planting, growing and
harvesting their own food, etc.
Well, again, an effective way to determine the value of a
service is to take it away for a time and see how it impacts
society.
I have a hunch there are many who would rather pay a living
wage if it meant they didn't have to go through the trouble of
making their own burgers, hunting for or planting, growing and
harvesting their own food, etc.
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maybe if those fast food workers had the patience of a gardener and the discipline of a hunter, they would be worth more than $15 already
Well, again, an effective way to determine the value of a
service is to take it away for a time and see how it impacts
society.
I have a hunch there are many who would rather pay a living
wage if it meant they didn't have to go through the trouble of
making their own burgers, hunting for or planting, growing and
harvesting their own food, etc.
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Sheetz is a gas station in the area and they don't have anyone taking food orders and its not an issue at all. You have multiple touch screens, step up to one and you go through the menu and pick what you want, pay for your food and wait for it to be finished.
Most FF will be this way in the future because it costs less in the long run.
A lot of you must live in small towns or rural areas. I have not seen a place paying minimum wage here in a long time. Nobody will get out of bed for $7.25 an hour here, not even ex cons or retirees.
Fast food in my area pays $10-13 to start. I saw a sign on the window of Hobby Lobby offering $15 to start. I think we're already there folks. And its not because of some government mandated wage increase, but because people won't get out of bed for anything lower. It's the free market self-regulating wages.
Do you really want someone making minimum wage handling your food and hoping they practice proper sanitation? For $7.25 an hour, do you think they will care?
Sheetz is a gas station in the area and they don't have anyone taking food orders and its not an issue at all. You have multiple touch screens, step up to one and you go through the menu and pick what you want, pay for your food and wait for it to be finished.
Most FF will be this way in the future because it costs less in the long run.
The Automated Employee scenario, taken to its logical
conclusion, requires that businesses who utilize such a concept
ensure that their prices stay low, because as machines take over
more and more jobs, there won’t be anyone who can afford what
they’re selling -- at least, not at the prices that those companies
might prefer.
Taking that into consideration, it’ll be interesting to see how
long the whole robo-worker thing lasts.
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