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Old 05-21-2018, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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The Supreme Court announced today that workers cannot band together in class action suits to enforce things like wage and hour disputes. It was the usual five to four decision that destroy worker rights.

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/21/60501...workers-rights

Employees would now be forced into arbitration with huge legal fees.
November is a few months away. Let's correct the mistake that so many made in 2016.
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Old 05-21-2018, 12:31 PM
 
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Hurray for unions and union provided legal counsel... If you got one
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Old 05-21-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Yakima yes, an apartment!
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The Supreme Court announced today that workers cannot band together in class action suits to enforce things like wage and hour disputes. It was the usual five to four decision that destroy worker rights.

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/21/60501...workers-rights

Employees would now be forced into arbitration with huge legal fees.
November is a few months away. Let's correct the mistake that so many made in 2016.
I take it you never understood that the SC is not an elected position and the only way to replace is when one dies. Congress cannot change it.
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Old 05-21-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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I am not sure what you expect an election to do, unless you are looking for a Democratic appointment sometime in the future.
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Old 05-21-2018, 02:16 PM
 
Location: on the wind
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I take it you never understood that the SC is not an elected position and the only way to replace is when one dies. Congress cannot change it.
But the current elected Administration can nominate replacement members and keep stacking the deck one way or the other.
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:29 PM
 
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But the current elected Administration can nominate replacement members and keep stacking the deck one way or the other.
You could make it easier... Vote for Congress to write laws for employee protection... Federal employees have laws regulating them that none federal employees don't have to follow. In return for being regulated, feds have certain expectations for due process in their employment
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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The Supreme Court announced today that workers cannot band together in class action suits to enforce things like wage and hour disputes. It was the usual five to four decision that destroy worker rights.

https://www.npr.org/2018/05/21/60501...workers-rights

Employees would now be forced into arbitration with huge legal fees.
November is a few months away. Let's correct the mistake that so many made in 2016.
That is NOT what the Supreme Court ruled.

The Supreme Court ruled that when an employee voluntarily signs an employment agreement or contract agreeing to binding arbitration, then that employee is bound by that. After all, they agreed to it - regardless what class action trial lawyers want to pretend.

More specifically, SCOTUS said the Obama-stacked and extreme-progressive NLRB erred when it issued a rule saying those employment contracts, even though voluntarily entered into, are not worth the paper they were written on.

This is a good thing. Individual arbitration is an efficient means to resolve disputes and deter nuisance and frivolous claims that would live longer and cost more if brought in open court. The impartial arbitrator is typically a retired judge or litigation attorney. Employees will be able to vindicate claims in arbitration that could not be asserted in court because of the complexity and high cost of the judicial system. Consumers will continue to benefit from lower prices resulting from companies’ lower legal fees.

This is win-win-win. The only losers are rich class-action lawyers trolling for cases where they can extort tens or hundreds of millions of dollars from honorable companies who settle cases just because the cost of litigation is so high.

Note that one group not subject to the ruling is unionized employees, whose collective-bargaining rights entitle them to group representation.
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:34 PM
 
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That is NOT what the Supreme Court ruled.

The Supreme Court ruled that when an employee voluntarily signs an employment agreement or contract agreeing to binding arbitration, then that employee is bound by that. After all, they agreed to it - regardless what class action trial lawyers want to pretend.
Whoa! Are you saying the candidates should read their contracts before signing?

Am I to understand you expect these workers to understand that its a legal contract and not some social media post they can delete later on and pretend it didn't happen?

Are you really advocating for workers to take some personal responsibility for one's actions?

And did my eye actually read that you expect these workers to stand by what they agreed to abide by?

That is so anti-american! This is america. These workers can't be expected to think and they most certainly can't be expected to honor their own words! If you want responsible employees who will honor their words, hire immigrant visa workers!
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:42 PM
 
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That is NOT what the Supreme Court ruled.

The Supreme Court ruled that when an employee voluntarily signs an employment agreement or contract agreeing to binding arbitration, then that employee is bound by that. After all, they agreed to it - regardless what class action trial lawyers want to pretend.
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Whoa! Are you saying the candidates should read their contracts before signing?

Am I to understand you expect these workers to understand that its a legal contract and not some social media post they can delete later on and pretend it didn't happen?
I disagree. Practically speaking, most people are not going to be able to have a lawyer review an employment contract. It is cost prohibitive, and companies are unlikely to negotiate them.

Decisions like this simply increase the cost of litigation to the worker.

If employment were truly a level playing field, this decision might be fair. The reality is, for the vast majority of people, employment isn’t a level playing field, and this simply disadvantages most people in the country.

It is a bad decision.
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:45 PM
 
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"Impartial arbitrator." LOL.
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