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Old 02-10-2019, 12:47 AM
 
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An even more insidious twist is usage of adjunct faculty. They get paid even less than grad students, and unlike students they don't receive benefits, and don't need tuition wavers. They already have PhDs, enviable publication records and demonstrated expertise in their fields, often exceeding that of tenured faculty. But because their careers were spent in industry or government, they are denied tenure track positions. And best of all, is that they can teach graduate classes and sit on PhD review committees... all at $5K per semester, gross. An umbeatable deal!
What is your actual university experience ? I ask because everything that you have posted is nothing more than drivel. I say that based on my 23 years of experience in universities.
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:51 AM
 
Location: The Ozone Layer, apparently...
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I once worked 1099 part-time decades ago when I was in desperate need for any job. I got the same promises - if you work out it will be full time. I worked out. I even worked over the typical 40 hour week in hours. There was also a bonus opportunity for steering friends and family to his business. 10% commission.

As it turned out, everyone that worked for this guy was 1099 part-time, and looking for something better. Many people steered friends and family to this guy, but the 10% never happened.

If I were you, I wouldn't jump from the frying pan into the fire just because I have a strong urge to jump somewhere. The people you interviewed with are doing what they feel is in their best interest. I think it is in your best interest to wait until a real opportunity comes along.
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Old 02-10-2019, 06:00 AM
 
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Maybe they hired the other person because s/he was willing to work cheaper than you

They want more (your effort/experience) but are offering less
How does that benefit YOU?
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Old 02-10-2019, 08:05 AM
 
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Background: Currently work full time at a toxic job I am looking to leave ASAP.

I interviewed with a company I want to work for and a job that was nearly perfect for what I want to do.

I did two interview rounds and just found out they went with someone else for the full time position. But then they said “we would love for you to do part time 1099 work for us. We are growing quickly and want to keep you in mind for future full time positions”.

What should I do here? Do you think they mean the part about keeping me in mind for future full time positions? I do know for a fact they are growing and obtaining more work.
If you need a permanent full time job, then you can't take that offer. What would happen to you, if they use you only part time? Can you live on that? Then if they gradually stop using you, what's your job reference on that? Does that help you get a good, full time job after that?

No...what they need is a temp worker who does 1099 work. Not someone who needs full time, permanent employment.

Also...1099 work gives you no protections. They may call you to come in at a moment's notice, or not use you for a couple of months. So you wouldn't get paid at all.

Don't do it. I also wouldn't work for a company that suggested such a thing. That's a situation that is totally ONLY for themselves and treats a worker unfairly. So they've told you what their mindset is on employees, and that is..."we don't care about you. We don't even acknowledge you need money to live on. You are just a tool for us to keep in a closet and pull out on occasion when we want."
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:24 AM
 
Location: moved
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What is your actual university experience ? I ask because everything that you have posted is nothing more than drivel. I say that based on my 23 years of experience in universities.
My actual experience is teaching as an adjunct this very semester, at our local university. PM me for more details. In fact right this moment I'm posting on C-D, taking a break from grading a quiz.
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Old 02-10-2019, 02:29 PM
 
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I would say no and keep look for a full time opportunity.

You would be leaving your full time job for a part time 1099 "maybe" gig?! Not a good idea if you need the money to live and pay bills.

Your answer is: "I can't afford to do that... I appreciate the offer, but I need full time work with the entire benefit package." Thank them, etc., and send a nice follow up letter.

Put a value on yourself and your work!!! They sound cheap and manipulative. Certainly they have money if they are offering to bring you on 1099 -- which is a total crock of BS.

In my experience, if they are offering you part time, because you just weren't "THE ONE" this time, how do you know you will ever be the one? They are reaping all the benefits if you go 1099, and you only get your pay -- and then you have to hold out your own social security and pay your own taxes and health care. No vacation! No 401K... etc.

A totally raw deal.
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Old 02-10-2019, 04:23 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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You can only be used and abused if you allow it. Walk on the offer; they might even gain some respect for you.
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Old 02-10-2019, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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This is not true. With all the extra money, you can actually max out a 401k to the limit. You can't do that with a W2 job. This is good for people who want to put extra money away.
You keep posting these fairly bizarre claims. What limit on retirement account contributions does a W-2 employee have that a 1099 worker does not, and vice versa? There are certainly account types that suit different needs, but any account holder can do whatever the account rules permit.
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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If you need a permanent full time job, then you can't take that offer. What would happen to you, if they use you only part time? Can you live on that? Then if they gradually stop using you, what's your job reference on that? Does that help you get a good, full time job after that?

No...what they need is a temp worker who does 1099 work. Not someone who needs full time, permanent employment.

Also...1099 work gives you no protections. They may call you to come in at a moment's notice, or not use you for a couple of months. So you wouldn't get paid at all.

Don't do it. I also wouldn't work for a company that suggested such a thing. That's a situation that is totally ONLY for themselves and treats a worker unfairly. So they've told you what their mindset is on employees, and that is..."we don't care about you. We don't even acknowledge you need money to live on. You are just a tool for us to keep in a closet and pull out on occasion when we want."

Part-timers are the first to go, if there's layoffs. They are shown little respect by either the management or co-workers. If there are dirty jobs to do, part-timers are the first to be given those assignments. And try using a part-time job as a reference for work elsewhere. The new prospective employer will be mainly thinking, why weren't you working full-time? If you're near the end of your working career, the low pay during your last five years could sabotage your Social Security benefit amount. If you'd worked full-time, those might have been your five highest-paid, instead.
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:55 PM
 
Location: California
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So did they hire from the outside then for this latest position? If so , there was no other 1099 person they could have offered this position too since they claimed they always take from that pool when positions open. You don’t want to be 1099 forever.
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