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Old 08-25-2008, 08:47 AM
 
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GEE Thanks! I work for a highly respected police agency and they claim ITD can monitor us but guess they got better things to do. Now don't let a higher up walk by and view the website then you may get a write up.
You're not following.

As a high value employee doesn't mean you are impacted by the policies created to regulate the low-value employees. So you typically will see internet monitoring in place where there are large numbers of low value employees. In my shop, we successfully got removed from the monitoring / websense because my manager rightfully recognized that treating the professional staff like the low-wage staff was a mistake.
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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In my shop, we successfully got removed from the monitoring / websense because my manager rightfully recognized that treating the professional staff like the low-wage staff was a mistake.

So some people are entitled to jerk-off at work and some aren't?
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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And what is wrong with completing your tasks, starting ANOTHER task and and having free time when someone isn't paying you to work???

LOL!!!

No lie, I'd like to see some of these young "professionals" try to make it with Chicago Bridge. They wouldn't last a day.
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Old 08-25-2008, 10:01 AM
 
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So some people are entitled to jerk-off at work and some aren't?
Yes. The higher up you are on the food chain the easier life is. As you may have noticed life is unfair.
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Old 08-25-2008, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Harrisburg, PA
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Surfing the net at work can many times be outright stealing from your employer...but sometimes, I think a lot of it has to do with improper management.

For example...if you have some low skilled employees who's main purpose is customer service or support...why do they sit at a computer that has access to the internet anyway? For example, I worked in a CPA's office, and the receptionist's desk was on our office's network...but did not have access to the internet. There was no need for that there.

I have worked in several situations...some where they heavily monitored the internet usage...others where they have not. I myself really appreciate being able to log onto my personal Gmail (internet) e-mail account throughout the day because I do not use my work e-mail for non-related work e-mails. I also have friends and family overseas who have several hours of difference in time that I might send a quick message to. Now, at the places where they heavily monitored the internet...it was annoying because it came up that I would refresh my page "75-100" per hour...when really that was Gmail just repopulating in the new e-mails (it was IT that explained that to them). Believe me...I was not checking my e-mail every 10 minutes! I also think this is very different from being on Facebook or MySpace at work.

Speaking of Facebook and MySpace...one place had blocked them totally...but employees were still updating on their cell phones anyway. This same place was brought out by new managers who had their own IT staff and they did not monitor or block out internet sites. There were many times where I either had to stay late or come in on my off day -- solely to meet with a client. While waiting, I would always goof off on Facebook. Of course, when the client came...I would get off. But it is better I be at my desk than downstairs having a cigarette...or even on my cell phone.

Truth be told, whenever I had work to do, my work comes first and I don't even think about going online. Like when I was at the CPA's office during tax season...there is seriously no time for that! But during down times, I appreciate having it.

If managers get so uptight about time online, look into how you are delegating the workload. Do you set clear expectations and insure that they are being met? Do you encourage feelings of taking initiative and being a productive, contributing team member? Do you reward those (like with pay raises) who actively ask for more work and give them as much responsibility as they are able to handle?
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Old 08-25-2008, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Yes. The higher up you are on the food chain the easier life is. As you may have noticed life is unfair.

Thanks for your candor.
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Old 08-25-2008, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Louisiana and Pennsylvania
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I think all companies should monitor their employees internet usage. Some people believe it or not are dumb enough to visit porn sites while at work, or gambling sites, etc.
True..As mentioned before, nothing wrong with taking a break and doing some so called "sterile" surfing (IE CNN, City Data ,USA today, etc)


If one wants to go on gambling, porn, My Space and other sites, the employer has a right to regulate usage. Frankly, it's inappropriate and the employer could be held liable for improper conduct on the part of an employee. If one wants to visit these sites, just do it at home uniterrupted. In additon, sites such as You Tube and those which music can be downloaded definitely slows the system down.
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Old 08-25-2008, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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You're not following.

As a high value employee doesn't mean you are impacted by the policies created to regulate the low-value employees. So you typically will see internet monitoring in place where there are large numbers of low value employees. In my shop, we successfully got removed from the monitoring / websense because my manager rightfully recognized that treating the professional staff like the low-wage staff was a mistake.
Low value?
I laughed...some of those "high value" employees don't do any work.
Sounds like you obtained some privileges there. "Gee, he has privileges."
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Old 08-25-2008, 11:32 AM
 
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Maybe I should change our policy at work...surf the net all you'd like but I'll dock your pay for the time on the computer.

Allowing personal internet use is no different than paying someone to bring in the sweater they are knitting , work on that fixer upper car that sits in the garage, take up oil painting...good grief! Why should employers pay for your leisure time??
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:18 PM
 
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Low value?
I laughed...some of those "high value" employees don't do any work.
Sounds like you obtained some privileges there. "Gee, he has privileges."
See my earlier post about life not being fair.

Generally employees making 10 dollars an hour are treated differently from those making 100 dollars an hour.
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