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Old 05-19-2010, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Jet Jockey,

I only have three comments in response to your response....

1. Maybe it's enlightening for you to know how many people view your "body art" -- maybe not.

2. Because your "friend" the tattoo artist makes a lot of money doesn't mean his job is respectable....

3. I can visualize your guy's body art from the earlobes down....

Thanks for sharing!

WC out
I know how some people 'view' my body art. I've had complete strangers come up to me and tell me that I've made bad decisions, that I'm a failure and that I'll never be accepted into 'normal' society. I've also had complete strangers come up and touch me because apparently it's okay to touch a complete stranger to see if their tattoos are 'real'. Honestly, if I spent all my time worrying about how others perceived me, I'd have no time to go back to school (again....) or fly, which is a hobby of mine. I don't really worry about how others perceive me.

I find my artists job very respectable. He pays his taxes, employs people, supports his family himself (his wife is a SAHM) and hurts no one. How is that not respectable? He also has multiple art degrees and has studied human anatomy at a graduate level. I guess that's not good enough because he tattoos, right?

 
Old 05-19-2010, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Heading Northwest In Nevada
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So, I'm "old school".......your point? There are a lot of 60 plus people out there that don't like the way a lot of things are today, in the employment area and other areas. So why make us look like the bad guys? Years ago, people were much more courteous than they are today. I love using a computer, but years ago it wasn't a major distraction at jobs like it is today. People today get fired over what they look at on a computer during working hours. I know this isn't the Religion Forum, but when I go to church, I don't see tattoos on the neck, upper back or arms of people who are wearing short sleeve shirts or a Summer dress that a gal might wear. It is a person's choice "to or not to" get a tattoo or numerous tattoos, but there can be employment consequences involved in doing it.
Have never heard of Eva Galler, but if I hired a lady and she had a tattoo that was covered up at the interview, if she kept it covered at the job.....absolutely no problem. But, many of the younger generation don't like doing that (covering it up) and do so much complaining about a company not willing to change a policy about hiding/covering up a tattoo or tattoos. They want to show off their body art (and piercings) no matter what a company policy says.......WRONG!!

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Again an "old school" way of thinking. Anymore it's become not only common but completely socially acceptable to have a tattoo. I see them on people of all ages, although it seems that people in professional lines of work tend to get them where they won't show under work clothes. (No, I don't have one, but I have no problem with them as long as they aren't visable under professional attire or gang/pornographic related.)

What I relate to is the REALITY that body art has gone mainstream and is not related solely to convicts and gangs.

I'd like to pose a question to you. Would you deny Eva Galler a job because of her tattoo which could easily be covered in the workplace? Think about that one for a moment before answering.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Heading Northwest In Nevada
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Why is it not alright for some folks to not like tattoos??? If a person likes them, fine, but don't condemn a person for not liking them!! If you work somewhere where you can show off your body art, fine. But, if you work somewhere that has a company policy against showing off body art......follow the darn policy, don't complain or QUIT the job!!
 
Old 05-19-2010, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Northern NH
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You will be seeing tattoos in church just be patient.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 12:38 PM
 
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You will be seeing tattoos in church just be patient.
My feelings about tattoos is not because I'm a religious fanatic.

I've already seen plenty of tattoos in church settings...
 
Old 05-19-2010, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Northern NH
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Why is it not alright for some folks to not like tattoos??? If a person likes them, fine, but don't condemn a person for not liking them!! If you work somewhere where you can show off your body art, fine. But, if you work somewhere that has a company policy against showing off body art......follow the darn policy, don't complain or QUIT the job!!
You don't need to like them. You are clearly in no position to be talking about hiring or firing....face it you aren't any higher up tha I am.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 12:54 PM
 
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I know how some people 'view' my body art. I've had complete strangers come up to me and tell me that I've made bad decisions, that I'm a failure and that I'll never be accepted into 'normal' society. I've also had complete strangers come up and touch me because apparently it's okay to touch a complete stranger to see if their tattoos are 'real'. Honestly, if I spent all my time worrying about how others perceived me, I'd have no time to go back to school (again....) or fly, which is a hobby of mine. I don't really worry about how others perceive me.

I find my artists job very respectable. He pays his taxes, employs people, supports his family himself (his wife is a SAHM) and hurts no one. How is that not respectable? He also has multiple art degrees and has studied human anatomy at a graduate level. I guess that's not good enough because he tattoos, right?
All of that education and he chose tattooing as his way to make money. What a shame!
 
Old 05-19-2010, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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All of that education and he chose tattooing as his way to make money. What a shame!
A shame? He studied art TO tattoo. He also sells paintings and prints at his studio. It's one thing to paint on a canvas...a whole different thing to 'paint' permanently on a living, breathing canvas.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 01:06 PM
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I definitely don't have anything against tattoos or anyone with them and I hope I didn't come off that way in my earlier post. Just trying to lend some advice to help out...

In certain professions, entertainment, NBA/NFL, etc..it's perfectly acceptable to have tattoos all over your arm, neck or wherever you see fit. However, in white-collar jobs where have to land big contracts with clients it's generally not. Some corporations have flat out policies against it, and others do not but will certainly frown on them and probably refrain from hiring you with them.

The mistake younger people make is that they'll assume that they will never enter an industry like this, so it really doesn't matter, and start to get "totally inked up" at a young age 18-25. Some of these people will then go to college, graduate from college and try to get a white-collar job only to realize that they are S.O.L and cannot be hired (I'm not saying this is fair/unfair, it's just the way things are).

Yes, there are tattoo removal services but they are very expensive and many will leave scarring and burn marks. Before you get a visible tattoo, just make sure you really think through the impact it will have. Not just a month forward, but 15 years forward.
 
Old 05-19-2010, 01:08 PM
 
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Why is it not alright for some folks to not like tattoos??? If a person likes them, fine, but don't condemn a person for not liking them!! If you work somewhere where you can show off your body art, fine. But, if you work somewhere that has a company policy against showing off body art......follow the darn policy, don't complain or QUIT the job!!
I don't think you're being 'condemned' necessarily for not liking tattoos. A lot of people don't like them and it's not that big of a deal. But to say that a person with visible tattoos will never make over 40k, or never be in a respected career or never get hired to anything besides a fast food worker is where I draw the line. There are a LOT of tattooed people who hold prominent positions and get paid quite well so it's not the career death sentence it used to be.

If we had a company policy that said 'no tattoos' I'd gladly comply. After all, they're paying my paycheck

Luckily for me, my tattoos have never been an issue and I've never been forced to cover them up.
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