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Canadians are super patriotic. They travel with flags on their back, and half of their conversations while abroad are about Canada. They absolutely eat up anti-Americanism coming from the United States, and devour it as ways to boast about the virtues of being Canadian.
I find Americans to be about half and half. There is the patriotic kind that serves in the military, votes Republican, etc.
Than there are the other half of Americans who constantly challenges their government, their system, and floods the entire world markets with movies, books, documentaries, academia, etc. with their questioning their own country on just about every aspect. Probably 95% of the anti-american books and movies out there are written and made by Americans. The other 5% are just referencing the 95% made by Americans.
Also, as a person who has lived over a decade in Japan and South Korea. Koreans are super patriotic to the extreme. Japanese are not at all. Japanese are some of the most modest, polite, well-traveled, least nationalistic people. Maybe in 1940 they deserved that reputation, but not in 2012. I heard more patriotic things in one day in Korea, than I have heard while living in Japan the last four years.
I agree with what I bolded and want to add that Americans tend to be more patrioitic when we celebrate our indepence OR when things like 9-11 happen.....but when time then goes on and we are either economically comfortable or at peace, we become more apathetic again in regards to patriotism.
BUT with that said, I truly think there is a fine line between being overly patriotic and being nationalistic....case in point, Serbia where at times the overt patriotism borders on nationalistic fanaticism! And someone mentioned Germany as not being patriotic, well they are really in a tough position, for if they seem to be TOO patriotic, people will begin to think of them as they were under Hitler. I know many of my German friends are in a quandary over this, and their government lets many things from other nationalities/religions "slide" due to NOT wanting people to think this. AND to me it is sad, as Germans/Germany are slowing losing who they are and their country.
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Most patriotic people I've met (to a distasteful point of extreme) - Greeks. If you meet a Greek, test them out by saying you are Macedonian. The conversation will by default turn to a fight where they will want to gouge your eyes out, even if they are considered to be educated or cultured.
Least patriotic (i've met) - Icelandic, Dutch, Austrian, Slovenian, New Zealander
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Most patriotic people I've met (to a distasteful point of extreme) - Greeks. If you meet a Greek, test them out by saying you are Macedonian. The conversation will by default turn to a fight where they will want to gouge your eyes out, even if they are considered to be educated or cultured.
Least patriotic (i've met) - Icelandic, Dutch, Austrian, Slovenian, New Zealander
Kiwis seem patriotic in the same way Canadians are. Much of their identity as a nation is derived from being distinct from the US or Australia, while at the same time flocking to Australia to live and work.
Norway is quite patriotic. It gained full sovereignty in 1905. 17 May, Norway's Constitution Day, is celebrated with flags, parades, music, family (and so on) all over the country.
Canadians are super patriotic. They travel with flags on their back, and half of their conversations while abroad are about Canada. They absolutely eat up anti-Americanism coming from the United States, and devour it as ways to boast about the virtues of being Canadian.
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Also, as a person who has lived over a decade in Japan and South Korea. Koreans are super patriotic to the extreme. Japanese are not at all. Japanese are some of the most modest, polite, well-traveled, least nationalistic people. Maybe in 1940 they deserved that reputation, but not in 2012. I heard more patriotic things in one day in Korea, than I have heard while living in Japan the last four years.
Yes many Canadians where their flag on their backpacks or sleeves. Mainly so they won't be mistaken for us. Many Americans also wear the Candaian flag when traveling so we won't be mistaken for us.
I think in some instances we are mixing partiotism (positive) with nationalism (a negative). Just a thought. What do you think is the difference between the two?
I agree. Flag-waving does not equal patriotism. Most Americans are nationalistic flag-wavers, not true patriots. True patriots are those who question our corrupt government and refuse to blindly follow orders. And whoever said Canadians are not patriotic is full of it. Canadians are some of the most patriotic people I have ever met. If they weren't, they would have become part of the United States a long time ago (around 1812 I would imagine).
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