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Been to SF, but not Sydney. Based on climate alone Sydney wins hands down. SF is way too cool in the summer, and the ocean way too cold. Sydney has a much better climate and beach scene.
I don't like Sydney's climate at all--way too hot compared to the Bay Area which is actually perfect. Sunny and a breezy 70 is the summer average around the Bay.
Sydney wins as far as beaches tho, because they aren't as foggy as here but thank God we get fog overnight that usually clears up by noon because that's SF's natural air conditioning.
I fly a lot and summer is so hellacious away from the immediate west coast but when I come home to SFO or OAK and step out of the airport terminal on to the curbside, the cool air is such a welcome relief.
I don't like Sydney's climate at all--way too hot compared to the Bay Area which is actually perfect. Sunny and a breezy 70 is the summer average around the Bay.
Sydney wins as far as beaches tho, because they aren't as foggy as here but thank God we get fog overnight that usually clears up by noon because that's SF's natural air conditioning.
I fly a lot and summer is so hellacious away from the immediate west coast but when I come home to SFO or OAK and step out of the airport terminal on to the curbside, the cool air is such a welcome relief.
There's nothing like that anywhere.
Way too hot? Sydney is 19-26C in January, I'd hardly call that that hot. NYC is 21-30C for comparison.
Way too hot? Sydney is 19-26C in January, I'd hardly call that that hot. NYC is 21-30C for comparison.
New York is a muggy sauna in Summer-awful and Sydney is also quite hot for someone accustomed to our weather here, which is extremely comfortable by comparison.
Sydney is a better city (more jobs better amenities bigger population) and beats the hell out of anywhere in the USA in terms of natural beauty but SF itself is amazing architecturally and is fun to walk around.
Sydney is a better city (more jobs better amenities bigger population) and beats the hell out of anywhere in the USA in terms of natural beauty but SF itself is amazing architecturally and is fun to walk around.
Bigger population - more jobs and better amenities? San Francisco city proper anchors a more largely and more densely populated region than Sydney. S.F also anchors a region with more economic clout.
Well to be fair the population figure for Sydney in the wiki article includes only the Sydney metro area so perhaps it might be more comparable with San Francisco's 'metro' figure of ~4.5 mill? The Bay area is an enormous region and in Sydney's terms it would be more like combining the metro area + Newcastle/Lower hunter, Illawarra etc. which are linked and populated areas immediately adjacent to the Sydney metro area. Altogether I believe it makes a population count just shy of 6 million so yes, still not as large as the Bay area.
Economically both would have their strengths over the other, however Sydney has the benefit from being the primate city to an entire region on the planet so regardless of population etc, that'll obviously be felt in the city. San Francisco's a tech giant though so not saying there is a superior city in this comparison, just different strengths perhaps.
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Sydney's coast obviously has the better beaches for swimming, but San Francisco's rugged coast is more beautiful to me.
Actually while the beaches naturally get the most attention a lot of Sydney's coastline is quite rugged as well. It's also hilly but maybe not as much as San Francisco.
From my favourite lookout - the ocean, cliffs and waves on one side and the harbour and city in the distance on the other. It's situated on a peninsula and in person the neighbourhood below looks a bit like a quaint coastal town maybe somewhere in New Zealand imo.
Where the coastline is lower and apart from the beaches, waves, rockpools, bizarre rock formations and crystal clear water characterise it, and people certainly embrace it:
I was contemplating whether or not to post this one (because of the guy who keeps raving ), it's one of the first videos to pop up on a quick youtube search but the detail it goes into is pretty hard to beat. Anyways I suppose there's always the mute button...
Bush trails like this are scattered all around the harbour, as well as the various national parks around Sydney.
Bondi and Manly beaches:
Note that there's dozens of other beaches dotted along the coastline.
I guess one of Sydney's (and San Francisco's) biggest strengths is how they blend nature with urbanity so seamlessly. You can be at the pulse of a bustling city and at the same time be only a short 10 minute trip away from largely untouched 'wilderness'. Based on what I've seen same could apply for San Francisco as well.
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New York is a muggy sauna in Summer-awful and Sydney is also quite hot for someone accustomed to our weather here, which is extremely comfortable by comparison.
Sydney's summers much better IMO. I've worn a jacket midday in San Francisco midsummer, I'd like some warmth. Actually Sydney's climate looks near perfect to me.
I'd go with San Francisco if only because it's hillier.
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