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-Opposition to abortion
-Opposition to gay marriage
-Opposition to government interference with religion
-Favoring traditional gender roles over radical feminism (not saying women have to stay home all day completely covered head to toe, but I think the feminist movement in the US is going too far)
Doesn't work that way. I want to live in a country where each citizen is treated like a human being, regardless of his/her ability to pay for services.
I don't believe that there is a country that fits your criteria. You can find some of those things but not all. You will have to choose what is really important.
If you are prejudice against the gays, I hear Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Yemen, Brunei, and Afghanistan are nice this time of year.
If you are against women's reproductive rights, try researching some strongly Catholic countries. Actually, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Afghanistan etc are also nice this time of year...
If you don't like governments interference with religion, again, try one of the Muslim theocracies that I have listed. Same goes for traditional gender roles.
As for the democratic socialist/egalitarian economy part, there is no country as progressive economically and as backward socially as you desire.
Sorry. You are out of luck. Move to Wichita Kansas, and pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist.
-Opposition to abortion
-Opposition to gay marriage
-Opposition to government interference with religion
-Favoring traditional gender roles over radical feminism (not saying women have to stay home all day completely covered head to toe, but I think the feminist movement in the US is going too far)
Doesn't work that way. I want to live in a country where each citizen is treated like a human being, regardless of his/her ability to pay for services.
Try Singapore. It fits your criteria just fine, except for the abortion thing, it's really hard to find a country where abortion is truly illegal in this day and age. Singapore is pretty homophobic, it has really high diversity and tolerance of religion, and the gender equality is nothing to write home about. It's also a very rich and safe city/country, so you won't get robbed or starve over there either.
Try Singapore. It fits your criteria just fine, except for the abortion thing, it's really hard to find a country where abortion is truly illegal in this day and age. Singapore is pretty homophobic, it has really high diversity and tolerance of religion, and the gender equality is nothing to write home about. It's also a very rich and safe city/country, so you won't get robbed or starve over there either.
Socially it works for him, but the OP wants a democratic socialist economy. Singapore is very capitalist though. There is a huge disparity between the wealthy and the workers. I've been there. Some people really struggle while some live really large.
I find it funny though how some socially displaced white Americans these days describe what they want, and they all want Islam, just.....without the Koran or Allah part.
OP, if you had bad dating experiences, then my suggestion to you is to stop dating women with emotional baggage. The problem is YOU, not the US. Start with that, and you'll be on the road to self improvement. You can't run away from your problems. Every white guy in the US seems to be complaining about "ultra feminist" women, yet I've never dated anyone of the sort. Work on your social skills and stop blaming the female half of your race for your insecurity or shortcomings, or whatever it is.
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I disagree with those of you who are saying that such a country doesn't exist. I already said that no country is going to have 100% of what I'm looking for but I listed my ideals just to show what I'm shooting for. I'm ok with compromising on some things as long as it's better than the US.
Many European countries allow abortion but place more restrictions on it. Of course, no Christianized country comes within spitting distance of El Salvador's abortion laws, but that country has too many other problems to be given serious consideration. Right now, I'm doing additional research on Scandinavian countries, Germany, Ireland, and Denmark.
Russia is absolutely out of the question. Besides the fact that Russia is one of Poland's arch enemies, there is very little economic opportunity, rampant corruption, incredible inequality, higher crime, and a lack of democracy. Turkey is also a no-go. Why are 3rd world countries like Afghanistan even being brought up? I understand that people like to troll on online forums, but still.
Well you can scratch Germany and Scandinavia/Denmark off your list.
Other than :
-Opposition to government interference with religion
They don't check anything in your list.
Again, even you don't like hearing this but there are not many (western) european countries which fit your bill.
For most of them you might as well stay put.
IMHO you can choose from some Eastern European countries and (perhaps) some south east asian countries and also some south-american countries. After that it will get very thin and that is why you get some third-world countries as suggestions.
Well you can scratch Germany and Scandinavia/Denmark off your list.
Other than :
-Opposition to government interference with religion
They don't check anything in your list.
Again, even you don't like hearing this but there are not many (western) european countries which fit your bill.
For most of them you might as well stay put.
IMHO you can choose from some Eastern European countries and (perhaps) some south east asian countries and also some south-american countries. After that it will get very thin and that is why you get some third-world countries as suggestions.
Can you please explain in detail how those countries would be a total misfit? I said I was a socially conservative democratic socialist. My number 1 issue with the US is the lack of economic equality and a very poor welfare state. I know I wouldn't get everything I wanted from a country but I would be satisfied as long as it was a better fit than the US. I'm not expecting a long list of countries. A very short list will suffice.
Can you please explain in detail how those countries would be a total misfit? I said I was a socially conservative democratic socialist. My number 1 issue with the US is the lack of economic equality and a very poor welfare state. I know I wouldn't get everything I wanted from a country but I would be satisfied as long as it was a better fit than the US. I'm not expecting a long list of countries. A very short list will suffice.
Well I mostly went by this list you provided.
I'm not trying to get into a debate of what a socially conservative democratic socialist is or how he/she would define themselves or what would be a good fit for them.
However if these items as you posted earlier are a requirement:
Quote:
-Opposition to abortion
-Opposition to gay marriage
-Opposition to government interference with religion
-Favoring traditional gender roles over radical feminism (not saying women have to stay home all day completely covered head to toe, but I think the feminist movement in the US is going too far)
then no, Germany, Scandinavia (Denmark included) would not be a good fit.
"Opposition to government interference with religion" would be the only item that applies.
Now if you want a good welfare system then yes, that these countries usually provide. However things are changing in that regards, too. But still a better "safety-net" then in the US. Your taxes however, once you do have a job, will reflect that. Especially if you are single.
But if you want a country that opposes gay marriage the countries you listed would not fit. Germany would come close as for now they only allow a "civil-union". Denmark, Finnland, Sweden, Iceland and Norway (Scandinavia) officially allow gay marriage and so does Ireland.
More importantly on the matter is that the public for the majority has no issues with gay marriages in all these countries.
Regarding traditional gender roles, I'm not sure what or how you would define it, but in wester Europe and Scandinavia men and women are basically equals in every sense. Professionally and/or at home. Germany's most powerful person is the chancellor and that is a woman as you know.
Well I mostly went by this list you provided.
I'm not trying to get into a debate of what a socially conservative democratic socialist is or how he/she would define themselves or what would be a good fit for them.
However if these items as you posted earlier are a requirement:
then no, Germany, Scandinavia (Denmark included) would not be a good fit.
"Opposition to government interference with religion" would be the only item that applies.
Now if you want a good welfare system then yes, that these countries usually provide. However things are changing in that regards, too. But still a better "safety-net" then in the US. Your taxes however, once you do have a job, will reflect that. Especially if you are single.
But if you want a country that opposes gay marriage the countries you listed would not fit. Germany would come close as for now they only allow a "civil-union". Denmark, Finnland, Sweden, Iceland and Norway (Scandinavia) officially allow gay marriage and so does Ireland.
More importantly on the matter is that the public for the majority has no issues with gay marriages in all these countries.
Regarding traditional gender roles, I'm not sure what or how you would define it, but in wester Europe and Scandinavia men and women are basically equals in every sense. Professionally and/or at home. Germany's most powerful person is the chancellor and that is a woman as you know.
The points I listed earlier are not set in stone requirements. I was merely explaining what social conservatism was because one of the other posters asked. But democratic socialism should be very self explanatory (high taxes on the rich, universal health care, food benefits, housing assistance, government funded university, draconian corporate regulations etc). In regards to gender roles, my ideal country would have the following:
-a culture where abortion (regardless of legality) is viewed as a depraved act
-family court system isn't rigged against the man (and ideally the court provides free lawyers to those who can't afford them)
-women do not receive better treatment than men like they do in the US
-both sexes are treated with respect but also the acknowledgement that they are fundamentally different and will never be 100% equal
-people aren't hyper-politically correct when discussing gender issues
I will keep those countries on the list for now but further research just how far out there they are.
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