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Toronto
Montreal
Vancouver
Sydney
Melbourne
Albuquerque
Las Cruces
Victoria
Monte Carlo
San Diego
Bottom 10
Mogadishu
Kabul
Mumbai
New Delhi
Baghdad
Lagos
Caracas
Pyongyang
Beijing
Tehran
I like smaller cities too...like, Burlington, where I live is hard to beat,
it is usually rated top medium size city in Canada, with next door Oakville a close second.
The only city here in which I occasionally see contiguous streets full of tourists stunned into silence. That experience alone makes it first place.
2. Hong Kong
I've been seeing Hong Kong in a more favorable light recently. Vibrant, safe-feeling and a great nighttime environment.
3. Tokyo
A world leader in transit and infrastructure. Clean, modern, vibrant, quirky and probably the most impressive concentration of affordable dining among cities in the list.
4. New York City
Need I say more? The greatest city in North America bar none, a world leader in contemporary art, fashion and literature, and a financial powerhouse.
5. Paris
Remains resplendent and beautiful despite concerns over cleanliness. By far the most impressive city here for old world grandeur.
6. Sydney
7. Singapore
8. Chicago
9. Boston
10. Seoul
I won't provide a list of the worst 10 without living in them first for a reasonable period of time.
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hard to rate as I haven't been to every city on this planet, but here's my list for the moment :
1. New York City
2. Paris
3. London
4. San Francisco
4. Barcelona
5. Nice
6. Montreal
7. Sydney
8. Los Angeles
9. Bordeaux
10. Boston
As for the bottom 10, excluding cities from poor countries, and only focusing on western countries
1. Frankfurt
2. Zurich
3. Marseilles
4. Houston
5. Turin
6. Phoenix, AZ
7. Detroit
8. Brussels
9. Milan
10. Lille
Interesting you mention Turin in the bottom 10. I am planning a 2 week trip to Italy in September and, as this is the only major Italian city I have yet to visit, was going to spend 1-2 days in Turin. From doing a little research it seems that although it's "off the tourist map" it's got plenty going for it -- a decent size historic center, some great museums, and a beautiful surrounding area dotted with cute little towns and great views of the city. Just curious, what is it that you disliked about it so much?
Then again, looking at people's lists I realize that some picks are more visceral and personal than logical and objective.
Then again, looking at people's lists I realize that some picks are more visceral and personal than logical and objective.
The conclusion I've come to is that the true power of an urban environment lies in the intangible realm. It's like an inspirational quality or dimension that's very difficult to put into words rather than a visceral feeling.
Not everyone is sensitive to it, for reasons that aren't quite clear, but it does seem to be objective within certain boundaries.
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Interesting you mention Turin in the bottom 10. I am planning a 2 week trip to Italy in September and, as this is the only major Italian city I have yet to visit, was going to spend 1-2 days in Turin. From doing a little research it seems that although it's "off the tourist map" it's got plenty going for it -- a decent size historic center, some great museums, and a beautiful surrounding area dotted with cute little towns and great views of the city. Just curious, what is it that you disliked about it so much?
Then again, looking at people's lists I realize that some picks are more visceral and personal than logical and objective.
tbh I had a hard time finding 10 major cities in the western world that I know and dislike. As for Turin, it just happens to be located in a very ugly region of Italy, a very flat land with the Alps in the distance but the region is really brown and colorless, at least in the winter. The city itself is nothing special and compared to Rome, Florence, Venice or even Naples, it's unimpressive to say the least. However if you plan to stay one day because it's on your way to another place it's fine. I based my two lists taking into consideration where I would like to live or not, and not based on touristic activities.
Didn't you say you visited Tegucigalpa? San Pedro Sula is actually nicer than Tegus' and so are several of the cities you mentioned on your list.
San Pedro Sula has a much higher homicide rate than Tegus. The Tegus numbers also include Comayagüela (its part of Distrito Central) which is notoriously dangerous, it's possible that Tegus would be safer than St. Louis if you take out Comayaguela from the statistics
How am i supposed to know, though? I cannot know until i have visited any of the cities that dot this world
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Top five since I haven't visited enough cities for a top ten list
Why not Liverpool? Seems a lovely place and so do several others on your list. Liverpool has shaked off its past industrial feeling or so i have heard and if i were to go to Britain i would give it a chance
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Interesting you mention Turin in the bottom 10. I am planning a 2 week trip to Italy in September and, as this is the only major Italian city I have yet to visit, was going to spend 1-2 days in Turin. From doing a little research it seems that although it's "off the tourist map" it's got plenty going for it -- a decent size historic center, some great museums, and a beautiful surrounding area dotted with cute little towns and great views of the city. Just curious, what is it that you disliked about it so much?
Then again, looking at people's lists I realize that some picks are more visceral and personal than logical and objective.
Having been there several times and knowing the city like my pockets, i can tell you Turin is one of Italy's best cities. Doesn't belong in one of such lists.
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tbh I had a hard time finding 10 major cities in the western world that I know and dislike. As for Turin, it just happens to be located in a very ugly region of Italy, a very flat land with the Alps in the distance but the region is really brown and colorless, at least in the winter. The city itself is nothing special and compared to Rome, Florence, Venice or even Naples, it's unimpressive to say the least. However if you plan to stay one day because it's on your way to another place it's fine. I based my two lists taking into consideration where I would like to live or not, and not based on touristic activities.
The region around it is beautiful, on the east side of the city you have the Superga hill and further behind the Monferrato wineyards, on the west side you have the Alps at mere kilometers from the city (Avigliana Lakes at 30 kms, Colle del Lys at 45 kms, ecc.). The flat land is only to the Northeast of the City, Milan is far flatter. The city isn't touristy but it has a Parisien feeling with the French capital having inspired the Savoy in the building of the city, has a decent nightlife (along the riverside, in the Quadrilatero and San Salvario) and probably is the best large city to live in Italy as it offers much for families (it has the highest percent of parkland for example, playgrounds every 100 meters, is clean aside from air pollution issues in winter that are more due to the climate).
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