Anchorage wants to send its homeless to warmer climates. What could possibly go wrong? (Metlakatla: neighborhood, airplane)

[Metlakatla]

Originally Posted by Threestep2

All they need is real Id not necessarily a passport. Plus - something could be arranged with Canada considering it is a transfer.

A transfer?

Alaska does not have bus service to the -48 or to any of its border crossings.

Here's what the DHS has to say about it, anyway. Edit: homeless people often don't even have basic ID; let alone "real ID" cards. Canada's also pretty strict about not allowing those with criminal records to come across the border, and I suspect they wouldn't make an exception for any of Alaska's homeless.

No. REAL ID cards cannot be used for border crossings into Canada, Mexico or other international travel.

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id/real-id-faqs

[Metlakatla]

Seems like a lot so early in the winter.

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (KTUU) - A shocking 50 people have died outdoors in Anchorage this year, according to the most recent statistics from the Anchorage Police Department.

https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/20...50-police-say/

[terracore]

"Anchorage police define an outdoor death as someone who dies outside and has no fixed address. Last year, 24 people died."

Just curious how many of these are overdoses versus exposure?

[Threestep2]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

A transfer?

Alaska does not have bus service to the -48 or to any of its border crossings.

Here's what the DHS has to say about it, anyway. Edit: homeless people often don't even have basic ID; let alone "real ID" cards. Canada's also pretty strict about not allowing those with criminal records to come across the border, and I suspect they wouldn't make an exception for any of Alaska's homeless.



https://www.dhs.gov/real-id/real-id-faqs

Unless they lived in AK al their lives - they came from somewhere and it is no that difficult to track personal information.

[Metlakatla]

Originally Posted by Threestep2

Unless they lived in AK al their lives - they came from somewhere and it is no that difficult to track personal information.

No one said it wasn't, but I'm not sure how that applies to sticking them on a nonexistent bus through a country that won't let them across the border
or whatever it is you mean by "transfers."

Those from out of state with someone willing to take them in on the other end can get help with transportation home through the Salvation Army. The mayor's bright idea was to simply hand out plane tickets to anyone who wanted them, essentially dumping Alaska's homeless (many of whom are Natives from villages) on other communities. I've tried to make that clear throughout that thread, but I don't think very many understood it.

[Threestep2]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

No one said it wasn't, but I'm not sure how that applies to sticking them on a nonexistent bus through a country that won't let them across the border
or whatever it is you mean by "transfers."

Those from out of state with someone willing to take them in on the other end can get help with transportation home through the Salvation Army. The mayor's bright idea was to simply hand out plane tickets to anyone who wanted them, essentially dumping Alaska's homeless (many of whom are Natives from villages) on other communities. I've tried to make that clear throughout that thread, but I don't think very many understood it.

No, you have not made it clear. Moving Natives is not doing anyone any good.

[Arktikos]

Originally Posted by Threestep2

No, you have not made it clear. Moving Natives is not doing anyone any good.

Is was clear to me this was their opinion. I'm glad we're all in agreement about this.

[Metlakatla]

Originally Posted by Threestep2

No, you have not made it clear. Moving Natives is not doing anyone any good.

Pretty sure I did make it clear on the first page of this thread (and throughout, because it kept drifting). Mostly, I was thinking of those from the villages who'd be unequipped to even begin to deal with hitting the streets of someplace like LA or Portland with no money, not knowing anyone, and most of all, without the street skills necessary to survive in those environments.

[RayinAK]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

He doesn't seem to have any sort of concrete plan except to furnish one-way tickets to the homeless. So some 18-year-old Native kid fresh from a village decides he wants to go to LA on a whim, and that's all for them.

The plan, whichever it may be, has to be approved by the legislature, not by one of the leaders (mayor, governor, and so on). The news dates back to July this year, and I wonder what the latest news about the plan is? Has the legislature done anything about the plan already? Just wondering.

Anyway, there is no way the legislature would approve a plan that would include AK Natives moving out of Alaska unless they requested it. I was unable to find any news articles that have been published after July this year.
https://alaskapublic.org/2023/07/25/...ess-residents/

“It’s not difficult to administer,” Bronson said. “Someone says, ‘I want to go to Los Angeles or San Diego or Seattle or Kansas.’ It’s not our business. My job is to make sure they don’t die on Anchorage streets.”

Bronson said the plan would work similarly to efforts made by the Salvation Army last year, getting tickets for homeless campers who were staying at Centennial Park campground. The Bronson administration moved many homeless people there after shuttering the Sullivan Arena shelter that summer.

[Metlakatla]

I first posted about this in August and am quite aware that there are no current articles about it; as I've stated, the plan has been DOA for quite some time.

No, Ray; municipalities (and nonprofits) all over the country provide tickets to homeless residents without the approval of state legislatures and have been doing so for decades. State legislatures are do not oversee municipal initiatives. That's what Bronson was talking about. Additionally:

Anyway, there is no way the legislature would approve a plan that would include AK Natives moving out of Alaska unless they requested it

Sigh. Of COURSE it would be at the request of the homeless person. NO ONE said anything different; and your own link says as much. Not sure where you even got the impression it was about anything else, let alone moving Natives out of Alaska against their will. SMH.