Alaskan Politics (statewide and nationwide) (Fox: agriculture, manufactured, sushi)

[starlite9]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

Again, the law was changed in 2004 specifically because of the Murkowski fiasco. Don't you recall voting on it? It was Proposition 4 in 2004.





If you don't want to believe the liberal rag the ADN, look it up in the state statutes.

Appears by the story, the State didn't get it right either... Neither is valid until the Court rules on them since they conflict and may not even be in legal under the State's Constatution... Time will tell.

[Metlakatla]

Appears by the story, the State didn't get it right either... Neither is valid until the Court rules on them since they conflict and may not even be in legal under the State's Constatution... Time will tell.

Sorry, but it's valid legislation; as I said, check the statutes. What the Court could actually be ruling on is whether the governor can appoint an interim. It's basically just a matter of a discrepancy in two similar laws.

Bottom line: if the Senate seat were to open up, voters would get to choose a new senator in a special election within 90 days. In the meantime, it would be up to Gov. Sarah Palin to decide whether to trigger a quick constitutional test by appointing an interim senator.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by DreamChasers8

I think the personal attacks are getting really old and are very immature. Disagree with her politically and that is absolutely fine but to bash her and actually slump to calling her stupid...this is someone's mother, wife and daughter...have a heart!

tried to give you kudos, but couldn't. Let's face it, some people are so immature they have no choice but to revert to name calling. I think I outgrew that in the 5th grade???? There will always be differences of opinion on most issues, especially politics, some on here have interesting views and comments, which I may not agree with but enjoy reading and hearing their reasoning, others are so far off base (especially the insults and name calling) that they make themselves look pretty damn stupid or childesh at best...Thankfully they are not the ones that influence anyones voting thoughts.

Nita

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by DreamChasers8

No surprise

youtube isn't the media??? What would you call it?

[Geechie North]

Originally Posted by Floyd_Davidson

Not at all. I said that claiming we should eliminate the checks and balances in our government, as a way to control politicians, is ignorant of our Constitution.What as that got to do with a discussion of checks and balances between branches of the government?

Regardless of the lack of continuity in your commentary, let me point out the "special interests" ARE constituents. They are the constituents that get something you and I receive no benefit from.

"Special Interests" is a whole lot like perversion! What you do that I don't, is perverted. What I do that you don't, well... that's just good fun stuff!

Excellent point, we're all part of some "special interest", and passing legislation/programs that the majority want is what democracy is all about.
However, we are not, and have not been for some decades, a true democracy. What we are is a plutocracy: a rule by $$. That's why special interests have come to mean the fat cats; it's because money triumphs over people 9 times out of 10.

But maybe-just maybe- this that tenth time.

[Geechie North]

Originally Posted by nmnita

youtube isn't the media??? What would you call it?

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Media.

The problem is that the once-proud US media has become a mouthpiece for the six or so corporations that own 95% of it. Couple that with a court ruling that frees it from the burden of having to report facts, and you've got the reason why Youtube, The Daly Show, etc are where to find hard news in today's America.

[Geechie North]

Originally Posted by starlite9

One thing that was pretty interesting about the pollster's, when they call, the Democrats are more willing to answer questions and talk with them, most of the calls to registered Republicans hang up, so the polls only reflect that of the people that answered the questions and tend to favor the Democrats.

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You are more than welcome to your line of reason, but keep in mind that "Republicans don't talk to pollsters" ruse was not found to be valid.

[Alaskagrl]

Originally Posted by Geechie North

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Media.

The problem is that the once-proud US media has become a mouthpiece for the six or so corporations that own 95% of it. Couple that with a court ruling that frees it from the burden of having to report facts, and you've got the reason why Youtube, The Daly Show, etc are where to find hard news in today's America.

Geech, I'd really like to hear hard evidence behind this GD "coroporate conspiracy theory" I hear so often from liberals, my brother included. Is it dope-induced paranoia or a real belief that public records are really all lies? Because if you look at public records to decipher who owns what, the reality is that it's spread pretty wide as far as ownership. Do some have more than their share? Yup--it's called capitalism. Get it, keep it, use it. Whether for good or for evil; that's up to us consumers to decide. Apparently most of us sheeple out there like what's being served. So--it ain't really the fault of the evil corporations at all. It's more like *gasp* the fault of the masses!
Oh chit, I said it! I love Americans, but man we is dumb sometimes!

[starlite9]

Originally Posted by Geechie North

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You are more than welcome to your line of reason, but keep in mind that "Republicans don't talk to pollsters" ruse was not found to be valid.

Well I don't and all the ones I know don't, and there is a lot of them.

Except of course when you are bored and just want to mess with them....

Where was this "Ruse" found to be "not valid"?

[Floyd_Davidson]

Originally Posted by Geechie North

However, we are not, and have not been for some decades, a true democracy.

Since we have NEVER been a "true democracy", as our Constitution made clear right from the start, I'm not sure what to make of that statement! :-)

We are (or were) a democratic Republic, not a democracy.

What we are is a plutocracy: a rule by $$. That's why special interests have come to mean the fat cats; it's because money triumphs over people 9 times out of 10.

Can't argue with the "plutocracy" description.

But typically "special interest groups" can also be people on welfare, or who get a road or a bridge... Anything someone wants to complain about where money is spent and the problem is that they didn't get some of it!