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Old 12-29-2015, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
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It doesn't matter what they think- what matters is how the local cultures in the Americas view themselves.
This.
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Old 12-29-2015, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Seattle area
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It doesn't matter what they think- what matters is how the local cultures in the Americas view themselves.
Using your words - it doesn't matter what Brazilians or other South Americans think. What matters is how the local cultures in the US view themselves.
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Old 12-29-2015, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Somewhere
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so citizens of US are "Unitedstatesians", but citizens of Canada, Brazil, Colombia etc. are Americans

We all know what we are talking about. No need to make absurd assumptions.
"American" is demonym for continentality. Unitedstatesians are Americans the same way Brazilians, Canadians, Peruvians or Venezuelans are Americans.

https://www.alluvium-journal.org/201...a-and-america/
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Old 12-29-2015, 02:39 PM
 
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Using your words - it doesn't matter what Brazilians or other South Americans think. What matters is how the local cultures in the US view themselves.
The word is used throughout the region in different ways, and that is just a reality. It won't change, so its a moot point.

From where you are it doesn't matter what Brazilians think. In Brazil, South America and Latin America, it does.
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Old 12-30-2015, 01:41 AM
 
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I dislike the USA term "latino" so commonly shoved down everyone's throats

It really simplifies and slaps the face of Latin America's diversity!
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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The word is used throughout the region in different ways, and that is just a reality. It won't change, so its a moot point.

From where you are it doesn't matter what Brazilians think. In Brazil, South America and Latin America, it does.
And that's why if I am in a Portugese- or Spanish-speaking, Latin American nation, I'll defer to whatever the established demonym for American is in that language and culture. To do otherwise would be rude and disrespectful.

Just like when (an insignificant few) people from other nations tell us we should change the way we speak amongst ourselves, in our own language and in our own countries. No thanks
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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I dislike the USA term "latino" so commonly shoved down everyone's throats

It really simplifies and slaps the face of Latin America's diversity!
Not really. It doesn't implicitly mean that they aren't any specific race, ethnicity, or culture, just that they originate somewhere from Mexico on down.
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:50 PM
 
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Not really. It doesn't implicitly mean that they aren't any specific race, ethnicity, or culture, just that they originate somewhere from Mexico on down.
No.

Anyone fom the American continent is American.
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Old 01-01-2016, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Even though it is seems geographically okay ...it is a cultural slap in the face. Other countries that are constantly feeling threatened by The USA 's businesses and cultural totally absorbing their indentities get really annoyed because we do not want to be melted in the mix. We are separate and different. Far too often I have had this debated when travelling ex in Egland with my Italian housemates, in Turkey, in Morocco .... It's gets really annoying. Regardless, who talks this broadly. The only time I really thought about the "Americas" was when the Pam Am games were in Toronto this summer. Other the that ... Not really a term I think of.
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Old 01-02-2016, 01:24 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Even though it is seems geographically okay ...it is a cultural slap in the face. Other countries that are constantly feeling threatened by The USA 's businesses and cultural totally absorbing their indentities get really annoyed because we do not want to be melted in the mix. We are separate and different. Far too often I have had this debated when travelling ex in Egland with my Italian housemates, in Turkey, in Morocco .... It's gets really annoying. Regardless, who talks this broadly. The only time I really thought about the "Americas" was when the Pam Am games were in Toronto this summer. Other the that ... Not really a term I think of.
And for those nations in the Americas who want nothing to do with the US, its policies, its social problems, etc (which I really can't blame anyone for at all - I don't want anything to do with them... why do you think I live in the US' #1 economic competitor? Haha....), thank god for them that they have their own demonyms to specifically note that they do not originate from the US so that there is zero confusion!

How often do you meet someone from England or Italy who says, "I'm European," or a Vietnamese or Chinese person who says "I'm Asian" when asked about their place of origin, before stating where, specifically, they are from? This is a silly, emotional argument, and one that is emotionally stunted at that. It seems like it's more a desire to sock it to the US for those perceived transgressions than it is for any practical reason, which is a slap in the face in its own right... albiet one that no one in the US has ever noticed or cares about. If this argument presented itself anywhere else in the world, it would be equally pointless.
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