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A country where all banks and most big companies are state run is not a capitalist country.
Scandinavia has a very large government sector and its labour markets are very regulated. People pay lots of taxes (up to 40%, much more if you're a big urner) but get very good and accessible to all roads, hospitals, universities, etc. in return and a high standard of living. From a US perspective, it would be called socialist. But in reality it's social-democrat. However such experiments in poorer, less developped countries always failed, since the rich in these countries can and do bribe everyone and own the state, in their advantage, and don't pay taxes. However in the US that northern model would be possible and would be a big change for the better. I think if Obama could choose his own model, that's what he would try to implement in the us.
In poor countries communists proved generally to do a better job in improving living standards, such as in Vietnam, China, Mocambique, etc. and also nowadays in many latin American countries.
So, I take it my clear minded friend, that the 75% of unmarried Black Women did not allow their men to get them pregnant? It was the state? The great society? Sheesh. You are such an apologist that it is almost fruitless trying to get you to see how the great society harmed the black family. What was the percentage of unwed black mothers in the 1950s? About 25%. Now it's 75% and EVERY year it gets higher.
Oh yes, coorporations want poor black people. You are out to lunch, to say the least. It's ALL a giant Consipracy.
That's because there were strong union labor jobs in the 1950s in Black cities like Detroit, Gary, Flint, Chicago, etc. . . Black men could graduate from high-school and get a job in a factory that allowed them to buy a house, car, and send their kids to college.
The 1970s is when organized labor started to be dismantled and when the "War On Drugs" started to put millions of young Black men in jail or in the grave.
But it's not just Black people.
The end of the working-class has effected Whites and Latinos as well and the out of wedlock birthrates have sky-rocketed amongst Whites and Latinos as well.
That's because there were strong union labor jobs in the 1950s in Black cities like Detroit, Gary, Flint, Chicago, etc. . . Black men could graduate from high-school and get a job in a factory that allowed them to buy a house, car, and send their kids to college.
The 1970s is when organized labor started to be dismantled and when the "War On Drugs" started to put millions of young Black men in jail or in the grave.
But it's not just Black people.
The end of the working-class has effected Whites and Latinos as well and the out of wedlock birthrates have sky-rocketed amongst Whites and Latinos as well.
And this is what I love: for all of the libertarian right's endless fellating of the FREE MARKET for giving "the blacks" equality... it was the labor movement that put them on the line alongside working class whites and hispanics who up till that point had all been treated like crap and been expected to survive off of crumbs up till the ripe old age of 42, and gave them all a workday with a start time and a stop time, and the wages to not only buy a house, buy a car, and put their kids through college... but also to put their money back into the American economy. SMH...
And this is what I love: for all of the libertarian right's endless fellating of the FREE MARKET for giving "the blacks" equality... it was the labor movement that put them on the line alongside working class whites and hispanics who up till that point had all been treated like crap and been expected to survive off of crumbs up till the ripe old age of 42, and gave them all a workday with a start time and a stop time, and the wages to not only buy a house, buy a car, and put their kids through college... but also to put their money back into the American economy. SMH...
Also here in Europe. It were the labour unions, bloody strikes, the socialist and left-christian movements, and not to forget the threat of a communist revolution, which forced the politicians and the capitalists to agree with fair wages, social security(at least 5 weeks vacation in a year, pension, eztc.), strict labour laws, etc.
In the end it was good for the economy, since the labourers became costumers.
great reply. First of all you never lived in the Soviet-Union and I'm pretty sure you never lived in or even visited Cuba. So all you know about these countries is what you have seen or heard in the very biased American media.
Oh, how many Western Europeans 'defected' to Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union? How many Berlin Style Walls did France, Germany, et al put up to stop the brain drain from going east to the glorious workers paradise in the Warsaw Pact and Soviet Union? Please. You insult everyone on this forum with your illogical and untrue comments.
That's because there were strong union labor jobs in the 1950s in Black cities like Detroit, Gary, Flint, Chicago, etc. . . Black men could graduate from high-school and get a job in a factory that allowed them to buy a house, car, and send their kids to college.
The 1970s is when organized labor started to be dismantled and when the "War On Drugs" started to put millions of young Black men in jail or in the grave.
But it's not just Black people.
The end of the working-class has effected Whites and Latinos as well and the out of wedlock birthrates have sky-rocketed amongst Whites and Latinos as well.
What helped to destroy Detroit? It was the classic one two punch. The riots of 1968 and the energy crisis of the early 1970s, compounded of course, with our automobile companies being fat, dumb and happy and not meeting the challenge posed by foreign inports and need for better fuel economy.
When a Mexican works for 35 cents an hour and a detroit automobile worker works for $21.00 an hour with generous benefits, (and inports use that kind of labor too), it forced the big three to outsource...which has harmed us all.
On the out of wedlock births, I concur, it has risen among whites and Latinos, but no where close to 75%, in fact, it is much closer to the 1950s out of wedlock births of black americans.
Don't worry about Webster. He is an known New York racist he seems angry because he because he cant use the "N" word any more. Arguing with him is a waste of time as he will claim that blacks are worse off now than they were in 1960 based on what FOX TV tells him.
Don't listen to Carib....he is bitter off-Island man who carries a grudge against all things white. He is the racist unfortunately. His mind is about as open as head of a needle ....which reminds me... something about pin heads...
Oh, really don't watch too much Fox. Their strident views are not news...it's politics of the right which is about as correct as the poltics about the left. Only things worse for news is MSNBC. The channel of idiots and malingers.
And this is what I love: for all of the libertarian right's endless fellating of the FREE MARKET for giving "the blacks" equality... it was the labor movement that put them on the line alongside working class whites and hispanics who up till that point had all been treated like crap and been expected to survive off of crumbs up till the ripe old age of 42, and gave them all a workday with a start time and a stop time, and the wages to not only buy a house, buy a car, and put their kids through college... but also to put their money back into the American economy. SMH...
The libertarian right is an oxymoron, and you should really put quotes on the "free market" when you're referring to what they believe in
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