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Old 11-13-2022, 07:09 AM
 
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Do you file a tax return electronically, or do you request a 1040 in the mail and hand write the numbers? Do you have a tax preparer fill out an electronic version and file your tax return? When was the last time you were told there was a glitch and your tax return didn't get filed?

Do you bank online I do never had a glitch from online banking.

If it was 100% electronic the small amount of fraud would be reduced to nothing. The reason is most election fraud are people voting for a dead spouse, or relative. When someone dies as soon as a death certificate is filed their ability to vote could be shut off instantly.
Correction. A fellow fine Minnesotian (Mr. Pillow) has "proof" that the algorithms were manipulated. Mind you, the Supreme Court is allowing the defamation lawsuit against Mr. Pillow CEO to proceed. Mike is about to get a business le$$on.

 
Old 11-13-2022, 07:14 AM
 
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All these sour-faced people with their "zomg, the voters get what they deserve!" Like yeah, we get an elected official who is not trying to overturn democratic principles. Besides, you [the tantruming MAGA crowd] sound elitist blaming voters. Perhaps consider better candidates next time? Those of us who believe in democracy don't want election deniers. MAGA cult election losers: Cheer up!
In the spirit of fairness, there were multiple democrats that funded nutjobs in the primaries in order to pick a weaker candidate to run against. About $44M worth. That pisses me off!

Democrats strategy is rooted in the belief that these candidates — many of whom spread unfounded claims that the 2020 presidential race was stolen from former President Donald Trump — will be easier to defeat in a general election. https://www.opensecrets.org/news/202...can-primaries/

For those who don't like "opensecrets.com" site, here is another source https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/de...ling-opponents
 
Old 11-13-2022, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Correction. A fellow fine Minnesotian (Mr. Pillow) has "proof" that the algorithms were manipulated. Mind you, the Supreme Court is allowing the defamation lawsuit against Mr. Pillow CEO to proceed. Mike is about to get a business le$$on.
Lindell is the only one who actually believes the election was stolen. I could imagine Trump snickering about how he got Lindell to believe this stuff. One day he is going to realize he was tricked and would not be surprised he does himself in.
 
Old 11-13-2022, 07:38 AM
 
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As Talleyrand said about the Bourbon line of French kings: "They have learned nothing and they have forgotten nothing". Being stubborn and slighted makes you forget about the most important rule in AZ: the moderate candidate wins. It got so bad in fact that the GOP squandered the opposing party midterm advantage - that requires a lot of deliberate ignorance indeed. No need for a debate even - let the other candidate just hang herself. Wow!
 
Old 11-13-2022, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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In the spirit of fairness, there were multiple democrats that funded nutjobs in the primaries in order to pick a weaker candidate to run against. About $44M worth. That pisses me off!

Democrats strategy is rooted in the belief that these candidates — many of whom spread unfounded claims that the 2020 presidential race was stolen from former President Donald Trump — will be easier to defeat in a general election. https://www.opensecrets.org/news/202...can-primaries/

For those who don't like "opensecrets.com" site, here is another source https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/de...ling-opponents
I agree. I also disliked that strategy.
 
Old 11-13-2022, 08:15 AM
 
Location: az
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In the spirit of fairness, there were multiple democrats that funded nutjobs in the primaries in order to pick a weaker candidate to run against. About $44M worth. That pisses me off!

Democrats strategy is rooted in the belief that these candidates — many of whom spread unfounded claims that the 2020 presidential race was stolen from former President Donald Trump — will be easier to defeat in a general election. https://www.opensecrets.org/news/202...can-primaries/

For those who don't like "opensecrets.com" site, here is another source https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/de...ling-opponents


In the spirit of fairness, there were multiple democrats that funded nutjobs in the primaries in order to pick a weaker candidate to run against. About $44M worth. That pisses me off!

It was a winning strategy and as long as the Dems have the money... all's fair in love, war...and politics.

In any case tonight and tomorrow the vote count is supposedly to start going Lakes way and she'll make up the difference needed.
https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...l#post64441062

However, it would have been better for her and other Rep. candidates to have pushed supporters to vote early. Early mail in voting is here to stay and Florida provides a good blueprint for Az.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...licans-step-up
 
Old 11-13-2022, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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People are clearly sick of the childish nonsense, like calling the president “Brandon”, not to mention the absurd cult-like conspiracy mentality. It’s just humiliating to watch grown adults behave this way at this point. The voters have spoken.
Agreed. And that's why there was no GOP red wave. It was a ripple, at best. Now, if you Republicans are smart, you'll learn from that.
 
Old 11-13-2022, 08:26 AM
 
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In the spirit of fairness, there were multiple democrats that funded nutjobs in the primaries in order to pick a weaker candidate to run against. About $44M worth. That pisses me off!

It was a winning strategy and as long as the Dems have the money... all's fair in love, war...and politics.

In any case tonight and tomorrow the vote count is supposedly to start going Lakes way and she'll make up the difference needed.
https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...l#post64441062

However, it would have been better for her and other Rep. candidates to have pushed supporters to vote early. Early mail in voting is here to stay and Florida provides a good blueprint for Az.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...licans-step-up
She won’t make up the difference needed. 68% coming from R districts doesn’t mean she’ll take anywhere near 68% of the vote. That fails to account for independents and the many split ticket R voters who couldn’t stomach Lake. Also, Pima still has 53k outstanding ballots and thus far, Hobbs has taken 64% of that county. Lake is still selling a pipe dream to get the base worked up.
 
Old 11-13-2022, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by john3232 View Post
In the spirit of fairness, there were multiple democrats that funded nutjobs in the primaries in order to pick a weaker candidate to run against. About $44M worth. That pisses me off!

It was a winning strategy and as long as the Dems have the money... all's fair in love, war...and politics.

In any case tonight and tomorrow the vote count is supposedly to start going Lakes way and she'll make up the difference needed.
https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...l#post64441062

However, it would have been better for her and other Rep. candidates to have pushed supporters to vote early. Early mail in voting is here to stay and Florida provides a good blueprint for Az.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...licans-step-up
Lake needs 56% of the remaining votes. That's going to be tough since many are from blue areas.
 
Old 11-13-2022, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by john3232 View Post
In the spirit of fairness, there were multiple democrats that funded nutjobs in the primaries in order to pick a weaker candidate to run against. About $44M worth. That pisses me off!

It was a winning strategy and as long as the Dems have the money... all's fair in love, war...and politics.

In any case tonight and tomorrow the vote count is supposedly to start going Lakes way and she'll make up the difference needed.
https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...l#post64441062

However, it would have been better for her and other Rep. candidates to have pushed supporters to vote early. Early mail in voting is here to stay and Florida provides a good blueprint for Az.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...licans-step-up
I saw some interviews with democrat leaders who were worried about Dem pacs spending money on promoting Lake it was a dangerous strategy. Lake could still win although most of the remaining votes are coming from Maricopa, and Pima counties where Hobbs is winning by 5 and 21 points. There are a few remaining counties where Lake has an advantage.

If Lake does win this in the end Democrats need to reevaluate that idea.
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