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Old 04-23-2019, 07:15 PM
 
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I see how they assimilate the uighers and the tibeteans....


japanese have a right to be frightened by the communist party of china and the people's liberation army and the people's liberation army navy
Very few Uyghurs and Tibetans marry Han Chinese. Their population grows much faster than Han population too.
For example, the one-child policy never applied to Uyghurs and Tibetans.

It is true that they are required to learn Mandarin Chinese now, which may have an effect of weakening their own language. However I do not see a better solution so far. All kids in America are required to learn English in school too.
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:04 PM
 
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:54 PM
 
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Not "numerous" and certainly not common. I had lived in China for over 20 years and never seen a single one.
Instead many tourist places in China have Japanese language signs. China also has the largest number of students studying Japanese as a second language.

This is not really "racism" either, more like radical nationalism. Chinese and Japanese belong to the same race. Once assimilated, the "discrimination" is gone.
It isn't really "common" per se but it does happen. I've seen a few restaurants and shops in GZ with anti-japanese signs and also a couple places in when I visited Yangshuo and Guilin, but most of those places were much less busy than those around them and the ones I knew in GZ have all closed.

It became much more of an issue after the anti-Japanese protests and property damage 7 or 8 years ago and has died off as tensions have decressed. Prior to that, as I understand, it wasn't a thing.

There are a lot of Japanese in Shenzhen and a fair number in GZ and as long as they don't talk and expose an accent, they are hard to differentiate from a Chinese person. The Western ideas of race put the two together, but the East Asian interpretation of race considers the two to be separate races; academics and commentators in either nation who have suggested otherwise have been censored or published in the past.

Younger people in China have much less of a problem with Japan, liking it's media, games, food, consumer products, and fashion. The people born before the 70's tend to be the ones who have the biggest issues with Japan, with a much smaller (but still vocal) contingent of younger nationalists carrying the torch.
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Old 04-24-2019, 01:13 AM
 
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It seems President Xi was presiding China navy 70 year anniversary hours ago seen in the YouTube video below. The new nuclear ballistic missile Type-096 submarine was seen on display (the sub with a big hump on the back), with 12 JL-3 SLBM launching tube lids. That’s many warheads on display, 12x10=120. It might have been 2 boats of this type, then 2x120=240 warheads on display.

Anyway, China can be a sea power too if it wants.

https://youtu.be/oyVk6EeCE0k

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Old 04-24-2019, 11:17 AM
 
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Chinese that don't badmouth can return. But once they badmouth China, they are in the black list whether they are in China or outside of China.

Some sort of compensation? What sort of compensation may i ask? How much money can they get?

You talk like you are knowledgable about their system but do you really know? I do question your honesty. You do have an agenda and people here can see that.

When i see China, i see a system that can roll over their students with tanks and make profits out of organs harvesting their dissidents. The system is pure evil.
I hear Chinese rulers kidnap people in Vietnam for organ harvesting. Is this true? Do Vietnamese people have to learn Chinese now?
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Old 04-24-2019, 12:11 PM
 
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Organ harvesting is mainly associated with Falun Gong as far as I know. I can't rule out that some of the accusations are true, but I am not sure there has been any evidence, yet. It's claims and counter-claims.

Either way, since Falun Gong is a very Chinese religion, fighting it makes little sense in my view, unlike with alien religions. To the contrary, the government should promote it in order to fight silly religions from outside. Falun Gong is not a threat to the political system.

While organ harvesting - if it exists - would be unacceptable, one should not confuse the government with the people. It would be like saying the US or Americans are evil because of the US government's actions (Guantanamo, torture, killing innocent civilians with drones, surveillance of the population, sponsoring of civil wars, etc.).

I heard the government is finally fighting ivory smuggling in a serious way now. Hopefully Chinese morals are evolving...

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Old 04-24-2019, 12:23 PM
 
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Organ harvesting is mainly associated with Falun Gong as far as I know. I can't rule out that some of the accusations are true, but I am not sure there has been any evidence, yet. It's claims and counter-claims.

Either way, since Falun Gong is a very Chinese religion, fighting it makes little sense in my view, unlike with alien religions. To the contrary, the government should promote it in order to fight silly religions from outside. Falun Gong is not a threat to the political system.

I heard the government is finally fighting ivory smuggling in a serious way now.
The Party decided to crack down Falun Gong because they "protested" outside of the central government for days. The reason why they "protested" is because a state run newspaper published an article criticizing some behaviors of FLG followers: avoiding doctors when getting sick, worshiping the leader like god etc.

Their leader Li Hongzhi claimed to be a reincarnation of the Buddha, among other things, and have supernatural power. They also collected huge money and started to gain political power.

The way the government treated them may not be totally legal, and it is true that many of them were "forced" to change their faith. Those who refused to do so were jailed. However, most people in China do not like FLG and consider it a good thing to end it.
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Old 04-24-2019, 12:29 PM
 
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It isn't really "common" per se but it does happen. I've seen a few restaurants and shops in GZ with anti-japanese signs and also a couple places in when I visited Yangshuo and Guilin, but most of those places were much less busy than those around them and the ones I knew in GZ have all closed.

It became much more of an issue after the anti-Japanese protests and property damage 7 or 8 years ago and has died off as tensions have decressed. Prior to that, as I understand, it wasn't a thing.

There are a lot of Japanese in Shenzhen and a fair number in GZ and as long as they don't talk and expose an accent, they are hard to differentiate from a Chinese person. The Western ideas of race put the two together, but the East Asian interpretation of race considers the two to be separate races; academics and commentators in either nation who have suggested otherwise have been censored or published in the past.

Younger people in China have much less of a problem with Japan, liking it's media, games, food, consumer products, and fashion. The people born before the 70's tend to be the ones who have the biggest issues with Japan, with a much smaller (but still vocal) contingent of younger nationalists carrying the torch.
Yes there are certainly conflicts from time to time. Sometimes there are even parades/protests.
I would say the hatred between China and Japan is less than that between Korea and Japan.
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Old 04-24-2019, 12:38 PM
 
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I don't know, I never quite understood what Falun Gong really is, a religion, a sect, a cult...
But it seems to be of a rather Chinese nature.

Being an atheist, of course I don't think much of anyone claiming supernatural powers But the Chinese are a superstitious people in my view, so they will always engage in certain rituals and practices.
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Old 04-24-2019, 01:12 PM
 
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Was just reading a bit on the organ business, it seems to be a global business where rich countries provide the demand, leading to horrible crimes in poorer countries (but not only, organ harvesting even happens in the US). There are organ brokers who charge up to $200k per organ, while the donor receives less than $5k of that, if anything. It seems that doctors and hospitals in the West are also involved in that business.

https://bigthink.com/philip-perry/wh...an-trafficking
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