A two and a half legged stool (priest, churches, children)
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nope ... I never said that. I don't have to and I don't believe you have to either. I don't think most atheist have any trouble in believing in [things]. I think some people have to argue against another side to reassure themselves more than arguing the point. I said I think some atheist do that.
Most atheist have zero to little concern about questioning them.
I believe you. It must have been someone else. Honestly, I was kind of hoping someone would have some convincing evidence but if anything, talking to people for their belief reasons had cleared up any lingering maybes. I can see how certain things could be convincing to someone else but it's not to me.
I believe you. It must have been someone else. Honestly, I was kind of hoping someone would have some convincing evidence but if anything, talking to people for their belief reasons had cleared up any lingering maybes. I can see how certain things could be convincing to someone else but it's not to me.
Do atheist have a yearning to believe in the real thing? Is that why they are atheists? Obviously God cannot be proven. Why do they need proof? As for me it is a moot point. I have no special desire to believe.
Do atheist have a yearning to believe in the real thing? Is that why they are atheists? Obviously God cannot be proven. Why do they need proof? As for me it is a moot point. I have no special desire to believe.
yupperz. I have no special need to quell every belief that comes if its plausible and or more likely than denying it. I have no desire or need to do that.
people? that have to obscure some facts to maintain their world? I do worry about them. what they believe is a distant second to that.
Do atheist have a yearning to believe in the real thing? Is that why they are atheists?
That would depend on the atheist. Some simply do not believe religious claims. For others, it is a conclusion from their studies of the natural world, the sort of people who also post in the science section.
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Originally Posted by Julian658
Obviously God cannot be proven. Why do they need proof? As for me it is a moot point. I have no special desire to believe.
Theists keep claiming they have evidence, so we ask for it. It would be nice to hear new arguments instead of the usual obscuring of facts, denying facts, pretending they have facts (often using jargon they do not understand), and the usual logical fallacies for answers.
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I believe you. It must have been someone else. Honestly, I was kind of hoping someone would have some convincing evidence but if anything, talking to people for their belief reasons had cleared up any lingering maybes. I can see how certain things could be convincing to someone else but it's not to me.
its definitely possible that a post read that way. Although my writing skills make that seem like an impossibility.
Do atheist have a yearning to believe in the real thing? Is that why they are atheists? Obviously God cannot be proven. Why do they need proof? As for me it is a moot point. I have no special desire to believe.
I don't know about anyone else. I think of it more along the lines of a bias. I struggled greatly with the concept of fairness. When I hear about something bad happening, especially to a child, I would love to feel some grand creator was going to make that right for the person.
yupperz. I have no special need to quell every belief that comes if its plausible and or more likely than denying it. I have no desire or need to do that.
people? that have to obscure some facts to maintain their world? I do worry about them. what they believe is a distant second to that.
When I discovered there was no Jesus I was OK. Later when I got married I had the traditional Catholic wedding and sent all my kids to Catholic school for 12 years. I even attend mass to keep my wife happy. This was not a big deal to me. I say this because I run into many atheists that were ardent believers and took them decades to figure it out. Then they became staunch atheists. That tells me they are looking for a cause.
I don't know about anyone else. I think of it more along the lines of a bias. I struggled greatly with the concept of fairness. When I hear about something bad happening, especially to a child, I would love to feel some grand creator was going to make that right for the person.
yeah, same, but then it gets back to who is actually in front of us (as opposed to something that is not there) stopping us from making children more safe.
I don't know about anyone else. I think of it more along the lines of a bias. I struggled greatly with the concept of fairness. When I hear about something bad happening, especially to a child, I would love to feel some grand creator was going to make that right for the person.
Yep. you are high on empathy and open to experience. You probably found something else to replace your religion, probably a good cause that is palpable and easy to see.
yeah, same, but then it gets back to who is actually in front of us (as opposed to something that is not there) stopping us from making children more safe.
One has to take a test and be certified to do many things in this life (like driving a car). However, there is no certification needed for creating a baby. The kids born of great parents win the lottery and the kids with crappy parents or usually just one crappy parent are screwed.
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