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In my whole life I have hated only ONE person. I'll give you a hint. I hated him beginning in 2016.
Well, it cannot be ME plus I know you (probably) like cats......
As to the original topic, due respect is a two way street in my opinion......but respect must start with self respect. I have met so many people who have no self respect and thus no respect for others, for other people rights, needs, beliefs, ideas....sad that there are people like that and I can only think "what a sad existence those people must have."
In a sense, this question is a big part of our discussions here on the Religion & Spirituality" subforum. When you think of it, we atheists are often claiming a disrespect toward our beliefs (or lack therefor) and personal freedom. The religionists are also claiming a disrespect toward their beliefs, particularly christians on this forum, even though -- at least in America -- they claim to be the majority.
So what do individuals deserve in terms of respect when it comes to their religious views?
To get the discussion started, I would suggest that -- without overthinking it -- my view is:
I should respect the right of each person to hold whatever belief system they identify with.
I should respect the right of each person to practice their religious beliefs (or lack thereof) in the privacy of their home, their place of worship, or their mind, but not where the practice of their religion intersects with other people's religious beliefs.
I owe not one ounce of demonstrable respect or disrespect for their religious belief system (here I am not talking about a discussion such as what we have here on a forum; I'm talking real world).
Perhaps we even need to establish what the word respect means. To be honest, the definitions I just looked up didn't seem appropriate to the question.
1. Don't demand that someone of a different belief must obey your beliefs.
2. Don't demand that people must do things that disobey their own beliefs.
3. Atheism is not a special case. It is just another belief. All beliefs are equal under the law.
4. Don't expect people to prove that their beliefs are true.
5. Don't badmouth any belief.
6. If a religious belief annoys you, ignore it.
7. There is no such right as freedom from religion (it is actually a violation of the First Amendment).
8. Don't complain about religious radio and TV shows. Tune to a different station.
9. If a religion prohibits something you like to do, you do not have to join that religion.
10. Religions do not prohibit BEING GLBT. Some religions prohibit specific sex acts.
11. Avoiding a disobedience of ones own religion is not discriminating against you.
12. Don't expect religious people to pay taxes that fund something that disobeys their beliefs.
1. Don't demand that someone of a different belief must obey your beliefs.
2. Don't demand that people must do things that disobey their own beliefs.
3. Atheism is not a special case. It is just another belief. All beliefs are equal under the law.
4. Don't expect people to prove that their beliefs are true.
5. Don't badmouth any belief.
6. If a religious belief annoys you, ignore it.
7. There is no such right as freedom from religion (it is actually a violation of the First Amendment).
8. Don't complain about religious radio and TV shows. Tune to a different station.
9. If a religion prohibits something you like to do, you do not have to join that religion.
10. Religions do not prohibit BEING GLBT. Some religions prohibit specific sex acts.
11. Avoiding a disobedience of ones own religion is not discriminating against you.
12. Don't expect religious people to pay taxes that fund something that disobeys their beliefs.
Okay. Just for fun and/or to keep the discussion going as I sign off for the day. Good list, and if I may...
1. Don't demand that someone of a different belief must obey your beliefs. - Check
2. Don't demand that people must do things that disobey their own beliefs. - Check (unless their beliefs are harmful).
3. Atheism is not a special case. It is just another belief. All beliefs are equal under the law. - Check (if you insist on calling atheism a belief).
4. Don't expect people to prove that their beliefs are true. - Check (unless they are promoting their beliefs to you as truths and you don't agree and/or in the case of exchanging opinion about such things).
5. Don't badmouth any belief. - Check (but don't hesitate to "badmouth" beliefs that are harmful or promote wrong-doing).
6. If a religious belief annoys you, ignore it. - Check (unless religious beliefs unduly affect or negatively influence one's life).
7. There is no such right as freedom from religion (it is actually a violation of the First Amendment). - Check (and let's respect the right(s) that secular laws afford us as well).
8. Don't complain about religious radio and TV shows. Tune to a different station. - Check. (What I always do).
9. If a religion prohibits something you like to do, you do not have to join that religion. - Check (nor does that religion have a right to prohibit something I have a legal right to do).
10. Religions do not prohibit BEING GLBT. Some religions prohibit specific sex acts. Check (but regardless the language or "sin," LGBT people have their rights too. Just the same. May they not impose themselves in any way upon the other).
11. Avoiding a disobedience of ones own religion is not discriminating against you. - Perhaps not, but if the avoidance affects someone in negative ways, they have a right to object in whatever ways appropriate as afforded by the law.
12. Don't expect religious people to pay taxes that fund something that disobeys their beliefs. - Oh boy..., if we all could avoid paying taxes because of tax money devoted to things we don't agree with, how would that work?
Well, it cannot be ME plus I know you (probably) like cats......
As to the original topic, due respect is a two way street in my opinion......but respect must start with self respect. I have met so many people who have no self respect and thus no respect for others, for other people rights, needs, beliefs, ideas....sad that there are people like that and I can only think "what a sad existence those people must have."
1. Don't demand that someone of a different belief must obey your beliefs.
2. Don't demand that people must do things that disobey their own beliefs.
3. Atheism is not a special case. It is just another belief. All beliefs are equal under the law.
4. Don't expect people to prove that their beliefs are true.
5. Don't badmouth any belief.
6. If a religious belief annoys you, ignore it.
7. There is no such right as freedom from religion (it is actually a violation of the First Amendment).
8. Don't complain about religious radio and TV shows. Tune to a different station.
9. If a religion prohibits something you like to do, you do not have to join that religion.
10. Religions do not prohibit BEING GLBT. Some religions prohibit specific sex acts.
11. Avoiding a disobedience of ones own religion is not discriminating against you.
12. Don't expect religious people to pay taxes that fund something that disobeys their beliefs.
In response:
3. Except that all beliefs are not equal under law. Nor should they be.
4. There's one condition on that -- they have to stop insisting their god is the one true god and then pushing their belief onto the rest of us. Most of us atheists wouldn't be here if they would stop doing that.
5. Similar to #4. If they would stand down, there would be no badmouthing (at least for most of us).
6. Similar to 4 & 5.
7. WRONG
8. Is there some poster here who has complained about that?
10. Like that makes sense.
12. Are they not a part of our society?
I think Troubleshooter needs a little more work on the troubleshooting. Hope our help is appreciated along those lines...
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