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Really? People still make this stupid argument? That atheists who are pro-active against religion and its encroachment into politics - oh yeah, we're secret Christians who believe in God. I thought even the biggest Christian apologists abandoned this toilet full of crap years ago.
This is what is called "shyting on the carpet." When someone breezes in, drops a turd like this one, and then leaves without any further commentary.
"Oh, I just dropped by to see how this thread was doing ... but I'll post a debunked argument first."
Why the hell am I still here? Even the A&A forum is filled with theists - as if this thread is now the R&S thread - and the theists have ALL the rest of the forums, from the main forum and all the subforums. You might as well have this one too. Screw it.
Calm down. I said there are different types of atheists. Don't get mad at me because I am sharing my observations.... Am I not allowed to take a break from reading forum posts and then come back and say hi?
Calm down. I said there are different types of atheists. Don't get mad at me because I am sharing my observations.... Am I not allowed to take a break from reading forum posts and then come back and say hi?
But you're actually not dropping in to just say a friendly 'hi', are you?
Calm down. I said there are different types of atheists. Don't get mad at me because I am sharing my observations.... Am I not allowed to take a break from reading forum posts and then come back and say hi?
Did I say you weren't allowed? No, that's the theists' job - to tell we atheists we're not allowed to post here or there or somewhere else.
By the way, you can share all the observations you want. Just be prepared to have people like me call you out when your observations are nonsense.
Obviously several people already have regarding atheists calling ALL Christians stupid - or ANY Christians stupid. Why is it that so many Christians are incapable of separating the religion from the person? Thus if an atheist calls Christianity stupid - somehow that translates in Christianese to: "All Christians - the people themselves - are stupid." And I don't think anyone here has even called Christianity stupid. Are there some ridiculous parts of the lore that are ridiculous? You bet your ass there is - and for an atheist to respond to it does not equate to "All Christians are stupid."
So yeah, I'm pretty well sick of people misrepresenting atheists here.
I think the reason life appeared was that the conditions were right. Our evolution happened the way it did because that's how it happened. I wouldn't call that random. Very lucky sounds more like it.
going back to the actual topic...
"because that's how it happened" again.....this is another way of saying things happened because "just happened". science has a way of making things happen but there are things in the universe that science, in my opinion, cannot explain or it tries to explain but struggles to prove. I agree....the conditions were right but I believe living organisms evolved the way that it did due to adaptation, but I really do believe that we didn't just "pop" into existence for no reason. there is some kind of "order" in the universe but I can't quite pinpoint it...
"because that's how it happened" again.....this is another way of saying things happened because "just happened". science has a way of making things happen but there are things in the universe that science, in my opinion, cannot explain or it tries to explain but struggles to prove. I agree....the conditions were right but I believe living organisms evolved the way that it did due to adaptation, but I really do believe that we didn't just "pop" into existence for no reason. there is some kind of "order" in the universe but I can't quite pinpoint it...
I never said anything about "popping into existence". I recognize this as a diversion tactic for someone who has even more consulted logic than what they are straw-manning.
A good summation.
I would add another variety to your lists. The atheist who is afraid of unity in spirituality, of those who see one Divinity, who see truth in the teachings of religion other than their own. This scares them. They will without fail point out my god is not their god and they believe you will go to hell because you pray to a different god.
Of all things about believers this scares them the most, this unity of vision about goodness, truth, divinity.
Why is it that theists always have to invent what atheists think or what we value or what we are afraid of.
Knock it the hell off.
What was that verse in the Bible about how you should worry about the plank in your own eye before worrying about the mote in the eye of your brother?
Mmhmm.
I do find it rather amusing though: MOST atheists found their way to unbelief because the tenents, dogma, stories, lore, laws, rules, and the things you are expected to believe are so monstrously ridiculous that they eventually and inevitably fall out of belief. Usually because they actually used a bit of critical thinking on their own religion - something you're not supposed to do.
(Incidentally, the religious-right in Texas (again) had an education platform some years ago that actually said, straight up, that they were against the teaching of higher order thinking skills - like critical thinking - because it might interfere with parental authority and - get this - "traditionally held belief systems."
In other words, the religious-right desire to keep our children stupid and unable to think so that their heads can be filled with fundamentalist religion - essentially creating the first generation of the Christian Taliban. You know, people who only care about religion and religious matters but are incapable of dealing with other issues - a big reason why the lion's share of the Islamic world has fallen into a sea of darkness. Only those nations who have embraced Western values have managed to progress and succeed.
The religious-right wishes to drag America back to the same era as the Islamic world ala Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and other nations. I wouldn't be surprised if some states commissioned morality police who walk around harassing people in violation of some stupid religious law - like forbidding women from wearing pants or something else ridiculous.
The religious right has celebrated the overturn of Roe v. Wade, but their obsession with controlling women’s bodies knows no satisfaction.
Now a far-right preacher known for his vile rants about the LGBTQ community is calling for men to burn their wives’ pants because, he says, it’s just a form of crossdressing.
Brother Duncan Urbanek spread the love of God by using anti-gay slurs and encouraging men to destroy their spouses’ possessions. Urbanek is a member of the Stedfast Baptist Church, one of the most vicious anti-LGBTQ hate groups in the nation. Church leaders have called for the execution of gay men and publicly celebrated tragedies that killed members of the LGBTQ community.
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so apparently an observation is a stereotype....ok.
