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Old 07-15-2009, 01:49 PM
 
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Why is that needed? You think by just saying 'respect others, kids!' every morning that it will happen?

It sure wouldn't hurt.
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Old 07-15-2009, 01:57 PM
 
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Hitler's killing machine also killed Christians along with Jews. Hitler may have gotten the message right but not the REAL message of Christ. Love your fellow humans. Hitler thought of Jews as not human. No where would the Christian message teach him that. He perverted the message for his own means----power. Science says nothing about compassion for your fellow humans. IMO that is what Stein is talking about.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:11 PM
 
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Hitler's killing machine also killed Christians along with Jews.
Nothing new there - Christians have always happily killed other Christians for not being the right kind of Christian or not being "real" Christians.


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Hitler may have gotten the message right but not the REAL message of Christ. Love your fellow humans.
History shows that when Christians are in power, Christs message is moot.

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Hitler thought of Jews as not human. No where would the Christian message teach him that.
Yet Christians taught that exact message of hate for a thousand years before Hitler and Darwin.

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He perverted the message for his own means----power.
The Christian way!

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Science says nothing about compassion for your fellow humans. IMO that is what Stein is talking about.
Then once again, Stein demonstrates his utter retardation and ignorance of what science is. Science isn't SUPPOSED to say anything about compassion, morals etc. Science is not an ideology. It is a tool.

Morality comes from humans themselves. Not science. Not religion. Not some flawed book or an invisible sky daddy.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:15 PM
 
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I take it you do not like Chriatians or any religion of any kind. Ok, Brick wall here. Enough said.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:42 PM
 
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It sure wouldn't hurt.

They can do that without a religious influence. It's called being a good person and teaching others to behave that way as well... No god required
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:56 PM
 
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I take it you do not like Chriatians or any religion of any kind. Ok, Brick wall here. Enough said.
It's not a matter of liking or disliking.. but rather a matter of telling the truth and correcting erroneous information.


"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Ghandi
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Old 07-15-2009, 04:52 PM
 
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They can do that without a religious influence. It's called being a good person and teaching others to behave that way as well... No god required
That is true.
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Old 07-15-2009, 04:54 PM
 
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It's not a matter of liking or disliking.. but rather a matter of telling the truth and correcting erroneous information.


"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." -Ghandi
It would be better not to look at imperfect people to decide but only look to Jesus and His message. No one is perfect---not in this life.
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:55 PM
 
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It would be better not to look at imperfect people to decide but only look to Jesus and His message. No one is perfect---not in this life.
How about if I don't need to look to Jesus? How about if I am just fine?

You may need Jesus and a book and a group of people on Sunday, I am a kind and caring person and I need none of that.
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:22 AM
 
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It would be better not to look at imperfect people to decide but only look to Jesus and His message. No one is perfect---not in this life.
Or perhaps one should look to Mithras, one of the god-men the Jesus myth was plagiarized off of?
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