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Old 11-10-2011, 10:03 AM
 
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Why would you elect a man who CLEARLY can't "seal the deal"?

Too funny. The great irony here is that Clinton and JFK got more arse than a rental car (WHILE IN OFFICE) and they are revered as greatness.

Then, here's ole Herman fumbling around like a schoolboy (10 YEARS AGO) trying to take off a bra for the 1st time and we crucify him.

After a while, you just have to find humor in the hypocrisy of all things politics in America.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:16 AM
 
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Too funny. The great irony here is that Clinton and JFK got more arse than a rental car (WHILE IN OFFICE) and they are revered as greatness.

Then, here's ole Herman fumbling around like a schoolboy (10 YEARS AGO) trying to take off a bra for the 1st time and we crucify him.

After a while, you just have to find humor in the hypocrisy of all things politics in America.
Last time I checked Clinton and JFK weren't holy rollers preaching to the crowd. Cain and most republicans are JACKA$$ES.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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God dear God help America - seems that instead of a blessing the all mighty has sent a great dellusion - how in the world can any of these people run a nation....you have perves - pushy bully boys from Texas - who can only remember two things at a time - You have a bunch of old guys that are boardering on dithering and wetting their adult diapers...what ever happened to guys like the old actor Jimmy Stewart..who played the American who was brutally honest and was simplistic in the ideas of good and evil - and governed them selves with real grace and diginity...and honor - - - - - - - looks like the genetic gene pool has become bitter waters.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Home of the Braves
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Too funny. The great irony here is that Clinton and JFK got more arse than a rental car (WHILE IN OFFICE) and they are
There is a difference (legal and ethical) between a consensual relationship between two adults, even an adulterous one, and sexual harassment or sexual assault. Do you see it?
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:49 AM
 
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There is a difference (legal and ethical) between a consensual relationship between two adults, even an adulterous one, and sexual harassment or sexual assault. Do you see it?
No conservatives view all sexual contact as deviant.
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:03 AM
 
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What's telling is the difference between the way women who report abuse or harassment are treated as opposed to men who report abuse. With women, the immediate response is to try to discredit her. "Look at this, she filed bankruptcy 10 years ago." "She's single." "Look at her hair." "She's already got a lawyer." "It's all cooked up by the liberal media." "If it's such a big deal why didn't she say anything before?"

Compare that to say, the Eddie Long or Joe Paterno/Sandusky scandals. Where's the outcry vilifying the male accusers? Who gets upset when Herman Cain hires a lawyer who says anybody who's thinking about accusing his client of inappropriate behavior better watch out?

That's probably why women are so reluctant to say anything. They're putting their head in the meat grinder if they mess with a prominent man.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:59 PM
 
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What's telling is the difference between the way women who report abuse or harassment are treated as opposed to men who report abuse. With women, the immediate response is to try to discredit her. "Look at this, she filed bankruptcy 10 years ago." "She's single." "Look at her hair." "She's already got a lawyer." "It's all cooked up by the liberal media." "If it's such a big deal why didn't she say anything before?"

Compare that to say, the Eddie Long or Joe Paterno/Sandusky scandals. Where's the outcry vilifying the male accusers? Who gets upset when Herman Cain hires a lawyer who says anybody who's thinking about accusing his client of inappropriate behavior better watch out?

That's probably why women are so reluctant to say anything. They're putting their head in the meat grinder if they mess with a prominent man.
If that is the case then why wait till the guy is a presidential candidate 10 years later? Isn't that worse?

Aside from that who on earth didnt think Eddie Longs accusers were suspicious in their trimming. They outed the guy as soon as he cut them off.
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Old 11-10-2011, 03:04 PM
 
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If that is the case then why wait till the guy is a presidential candidate 10 years later? Isn't that worse?
Most of us just try to survive. If you boss reached in your pants and tried to pull your head down into his crotch, would you run off and file a report? It's especially difficult when the incident is highly embarrassing to you, and when you know there's good chance a lot of people are going to snicker and dismiss it, and joke about how you probably asked for it. You know it will probably mark you in the workplace as a complainer and somebody who's hard to get along with.

So we grin and bear it, and try to put it behind us. But do you forget? What if you kept seeing that same guy on the news, constantly bragging about being a straight shooter and a man of his word. Not only that, he declares that people who get their faces stuffed in someone else's crotch are doing so as a matter of choice.

Think you might mention your experience to somebody at some point, or will just keep it bottled up forever?
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:49 PM
 
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My (right wing) brother-in-law said the latest lady accusing Cain should have a lie detector test before she can make such accusations! What about free speech? Now, I say what about Cain taking a lie detector test instead...
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Didn't America already suffer a president that like to force a womans face into his crotch? Do you really need a second one?
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