Atlanta should move up to 8th by the 2020 census (Gainesville: job market, subdivisions)

[Atlwarrior]

Atlanta ranking could be higher if the city can add at least 40,000 residents from apartment building alone.

Projected new units in metro Atlanta
40,258 Total over the next three years.

Source: Databank Inc.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by JoeP

Of course, but they had been combined in the past and should be now. They are way too big and too close to not count because of semantics.

At some point (1980s?) they split Baltimore and DC and SF/Oakland from San Jose Not sure why it was one way and then changed. Now neither has the continuous development of Dallas and Ft. Worth. Not sure Cincinnati and Dayton (which have always been separate) don't have more overlap than DC and the Bay Area.

[JoeP]

Now neither has the continuous development of Dallas and Ft. Worth

Part of my point is that this is meaningless in the real world. Most people know that DC and Baltimore are one big market for business purposes. I lived there in the 90s and the development between was significant and there was a lot of new stuff happening. Cincy has had modest growth and Dayton has struggled for decades and neither is near the size of the DC or Bay areas.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by JoeP

Part of my point is that this is meaningless in the real world. Most people know that DC and Baltimore are one big market for business purposes. I lived there in the 90s and the development between was significant and there was a lot of new stuff happening. Cincy has had modest growth and Dayton has struggled for decades and neither is near the size of the DC or Bay areas.

The fact that they are a CSA demonstrates that it's still one regional market, but just not quite as closely tied as regions that are MSAs based on current commuter criteria. However, that criteria evolves as metropolitan areas across the country continue to grow and develop.

[JoeTarheel]

Originally Posted by bu2

At some point (1980s?) they split Baltimore and DC and SF/Oakland from San Jose Not sure why it was one way and then changed. Now neither has the continuous development of Dallas and Ft. Worth. Not sure Cincinnati and Dayton (which have always been separate) don't have more overlap than DC and the Bay Area.

They did that with several metro areas that had more than one primary city, each with its own MSA. Was that when CSAs were created possibly? I have no idea, but for some reason they split up a few different areas like the Triad and the Triangle in NC...I guess because they no longer met the criteria for an MSA and were re-designated as CSAs.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by JoeTarheel

They did that with several metro areas that had more than one primary city, each with its own MSA. Was that when CSAs were created possibly? I have no idea, but for some reason they split up a few different areas like the Triad and the Triangle in NC...I guess because they no longer met the criteria for an MSA and were re-designated as CSAs.

There were CSAs before that point, but they were called consolidated statistical areas and now they are combined statistical areas. I think the commuting threshold was changed in 2000, which is why former singular MSAs like the Triangle, Triad, Bay Area, Upstate SC, etc. got broken up into two main MSAs which was reflected in the 2003 revisions.

[JoeTarheel]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

There were CSAs before that point, but they were called consolidated statistical areas and now they are combined statistical areas. I think the commuting threshold was changed in 2000, which is why former singular MSAs like the Triangle, Triad, Bay Area, Upstate SC, etc. got broken up into two main MSAs which was reflected in the 2003 revisions.

And still some people just can't let go and accept that change. LOL!

[Cameron H]

Only the City is really Atlanta. When will it surpass Mesa for #38?

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by JoeTarheel

And still some people just can't let go and accept that change. LOL!

Yeah a lot of folks are still upset about that LOL.

[jero23]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

There were CSAs before that point, but they were called consolidated statistical areas and now they are combined statistical areas. I think the commuting threshold was changed in 2000, which is why former singular MSAs like the Triangle, Triad, Bay Area, Upstate SC, etc. got broken up into two main MSAs which was reflected in the 2003 revisions.

Actually, they were called "Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Areas" (CMSA) by the US Census Bureau. However, the Piedmont Triad nor the Triangle were not considered either prior to 2003. Prior to 2003, both were just simply one MSA according to the US Census Bureau. The San Francisco Bay Area including San Jose and DC-Baltimore were considered CMSA prior to 2003 revisions to create Micropolitan Areas, Consolidated Statistical Areas (CSA), and Metropolitan Divisions category within the large metro areas. I remember working on a very large research project with the US Census Bureau on how and why the designations were changed or eliminated, and those 4 regions were case studies for those new designations creation.